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CFA Genealogy Panel – 2012 Annual Report

217 Genealogy Panel cases were logged in 2012. Full details from each case are on file and can be requested from ClaudiaBrocato@ChandlerFamilyAssociation.org

CFALD refers to the CFA Lineages Database. CFALD reports were shared with inquirers when appropriate, and DNA testing suggested if a suitable subject is available. Rows shaded gray at top indicate cases which have been carried over from 2011. CFA membership was encouraged for each inquirer.

“New” in member column indicates the inquirer joined the CFA about the same time their query was submitted to the GP or as a result of the GP’s efforts. CFALD refers to the CFA Lineages Database. DNA Group Number in bold indicates an actual DNA testee or close relative of testee. DNA Group Number with a question mark (?) indicates a supposition of genetic group.

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Case#

Inquiry

Mbr*

DNA

Group

Response

NG

Allen (Allan) Chandler (b 4-10-1812, d. 1887) married Temperance Davenport? They lived in The Ware Place, South Carolina (first called Chandler, South Carolina), and ran the Chandler School. Allen's son was John W. Chandler, who married Mary Jane (Molly) Mattison. What is Allen’s ancestry?

Yes

7A

Panel and several researchers have discussed this case at length and correspondence continues.

DH

William Chandler born 1790, possibly married to Elizabeth, had sons Robert born 1811 and Joseph born 1812. Came to McNairy County, TN. William left NC between 1820-1830. He had 16 kids. Robert had 20!

New

 

Not able to find these people in CFALD. Advised inquirer to seek a male Chandler relative for a DNA test.

216

John Chandler, g-grandson of John born 1600, is the subject of this query. We have tracked back to a John born in 1752. His father may have been John born in 1729.

No

2?

The "JRR John" line (genetic Chandler family 7A) includes John born 1600 in England > Robert 1629 - 1669 VA > Robert 1654 - 1720 VA > John 1690/1 - 1747 VA > John 1718 - 1776 > John Allen born 1757 > no descendants known. This is not the same line as John Chandler born 1752 in Lunenburg Co, VA whose ancestry we have as William born VA 1654 - 1729 > William born 1675 > William 1696 - 1748 > William born 1728 New Kent Co, VA > John born 1752 Lunenburg Co, VA (genetic Chandler family 2). We do not have a John Chandler born in 1729. More information requested, but nothing further from inquirer.

217

A. B. Chandler (1840 – 1923) from Vermont was a telegrapher in the War Dept. during the Civil War. We have his journals from 1859-1920. Was he a member of Chandler family 9?

N0

9

Albert Brown Chandler was not only a telegrapher during the Civil War, but also became very successful in the telegraphy business and was president of the Atlantic and Pacific Telegraph Company from 1879 to 1882. He was a member of genetic group #9, descendants of William and Annis Chandler who migrated from Hertfordshire, England, to Roxbury, Massachusetts in 1637. Nothing further from inquirer.

218

Lax / Lacks / Locks family from Halifax County, VA, intermarried with Chandlers. Will of William Chandler mentions his "daughter Susanna(h?) who married William Lax." William Lax’s (1727-1783) will mentions his wife Susanna Chandler. Christening records exist of Susanna and her father William Chandler from St. Peter's Parish Church. Is William the son of Robert Chandler, Jr., of New Kent County? A document indicates Susanna was the sister of Frederick Chandler. William Lax and Susanna had sons named Joel and Timothy. Apparently, William Chandler, his 3rd wife and his son Frederick (Susanna's half-brother) moved to Halifax County by the 3rd quarter of the 18th century. William and Susanna's son Timothy fought and died in the Revolution.

New

7A

CFALD confirms that Timothy was Susannah's brother and Frederick her half-brother. We asked for a copy of the Chandler christening records from St Peter's Parish church. Susannah's father William (1693-1779) was the son of Robert Chandler (1654-1720), grandson of Robert b abt 1629-1669 and great-grandson of John Chandler b 1600 in England.  The younger Robert married Elizabeth Palmer (b abt 1664 King William Co., VA, died 1745).  

219

Daniel Chandler was born VA, probably about 1760 to 1770. Inquirer provided PDF with two generations of Daniel’s descendants.

 

Upon request, inquirer sent a GEDCOM file and replied: Daniel Chandler, the son of Joel, who died in Granville County NC about 1798 is not the same person as my Daniel who died in 1843 or 1844 in Grainger County, TN. My Daniel Chandler was living in Franklin County, VA, as late as 1800 and was on a tax list in Grainger County, TN by 1814.

New

 

CFALD indicates Daniel is a descendant of John Chandler b 1600. Lineage: John > Robert > Robert > Joell > Joel > Daniel. We provided excerpt on Daniel from “Chandlers in the American Revolution” special edition of the CFA newsletter.

Daniel Chandler’s ancestry is a knotty problem that will require a great deal of unraveling. We are unable to solve it at this time. CFALD has a Thomas Chandler, son of Daniel Chandler and his first wife whose name is unknown, who married Hannah Fletcher on 27 August 1818, the date you specified. We have his birth year as 1796, the year before Daniel's marriage to Margaret Roan(e).

220

James Chandler (1790), Sevier, TN >William B Chandler (1820-1860) > John Kiker Chandler (1852-1948) > Ollie D'Esther Chandler (1895-1985).  Which genetic family is this?

Yes

8

Male Chandler cousins have tested as genetic Chandler family #8. You will find reference in the USA section to DNA testee #58353, who shares part of inquirer’s lineage. DNA places your Chandlers clearly within genetic family 8, but when we look at the Chandlers who are said to be your earlier ancestors they are also claimed by a different genetic family. We hope to resolve the conflict in the future.

221

Violet Chandler and her siblings were orphaned in 1899. At some point Violet went to Wales, where she married in 1918. Is there any way to find out more?

No

 

England and Wales censuses for 1911 do not include anyone resembling your 16 year-old Violet/Vinie/Viny/Viney. The man she would marry (in Wales in 1918) is still living in Reading in 1911. Possibly she was in service to someone who was not careful about recording employees on census returns. Unable to help further.

222

James Chandler Hughes was born Oct 17, 1841 in Chistlehurst, Kent. He was baptized Nov. 7, 1841 in Chistlehurst Parish Church. His mother was Charlotte. Father's name unknown. On James's marriage certificate he states his father was a carman named Charles. James passed away Nov. 30, 1921 in St. Pancras, London. He married Caroline Skinner June 3, 1869 in St. John's Church, Waterloo, Surrey. Caroline was born Aug. 1, 1848, to Thomas Skinner and Maria Winter in Walworth, Surrey. Inquirer has 1861, 71, 81, 91 and 1901 census for James Chandler Hughes. Inquirer asks, “Could you please help me in some way to figure out where the ‘Chandler’ came from?”

No

 

Customarily when an unmarried woman gave a surname as the second forename of a child at baptism, she was expressing her belief that that was the surname of the father. Sometimes she would give an even clearer signal using the first forename of the alleged father as well. In this case we know that James Hughes stated that his father's name was Charles. The civil birth registration of James Hughes in the 4th quarter of 1841 did not include Chandler as a second forename. A small correction - the place name is Chislehurst.

       In the 1851 census, we found a Charles Chandler age 37, no recorded occupation, living in and born in Crayford (only a few miles from Chislehurst). He is lodging in the home of George Farman, a fishmonger aged 35, born Crayford, and his family. Charles Chandler was not found in the 1841 Census, but on examining the Crayford entries in that census we found a number of people named Farman and Foreman and several named Chandler and Shindler (an uncommon variation of Chandler). Two households include both Chandlers in Faremans, further evidence of close relationships between Chandler and Far(e)man families.

       Henry and Ann Chantler (Chantler and Chandler were regularly interchanged in Kent) had son Charles baptised at Crayford on 21 April 1811, almost certainly the Charles Chandler who was living with George Farman in 1851. It is likely that this Charles Chandler, son of Henry and Ann Chantler, was the father of James Chandler Hughes.

223

Joseph Chandler (b Feb 4, 1724/25 in New Kent, VA and d. Sep 28, 1805 in Caswell, NC) who married Nancy Ann Atchison – a descendant of this couple is a family finder (FTDNA) match. Inquirer’s brother had Y-DNA test (67 markers) and also FTDNA. Lineage provided by inquirer: John Chandler b 1600 ENG > Robert Chandler b c 1629 VA > Robert Chandler b 1654 VA > William Chandler b 1693 VA > Robert Chandler b 1729 VA > John Chandler b 1754 VA > Orrill Chandler > Robert Tunstall > Robert Lee “Bob” > James H. Chandler. Inquirer has documentation for John Chandler and Caty Tunstall and for John Chandler marrying Caty Irby.

 

Response from inquirer: “If your John never married either of the two Caty's then I now know for sure that he was not my John.”

Yes

7A

CFALD has James and Nancy, but her maiden name in CFALD is spelled Atkinson. Of course it is possible that Nancy’s name was indeed Atchison. CFALD reports were sent for ancestors of Orrill and descendants of his father John. Provided contact information for a researcher with Robert Chandler born 1729 as a common ancestor and invited inquirer to exchange information with him.

 

224

New member was contacted asking for lineage. He responded with lineage that disagreed with CFALD.

New

7A

Reports from CFALD were sent and collaboration invited. Probable lineage: JRR > Joell Chandler b 1683 VA > Robert Chandler b 1720 VA > Bailey Chandler b 1751 VA > Robert Chandler b 1775 NC > Robert Bailey Chandler b 1820 GA > Alonzo Harris Chandler b1856 > Eron Jesse Chandler b 1899

225

Thompson Chandler b 1811 > Sylvester Eugustus Paris Chandler b 1849 > Arthur Paris Chandler b 1873 > Martha Ellen Chandler b 1917 > Sara(h) Patricia Tinsley New member provided ancestry, believing she was in Group 7A but the generations of which she was certain are members of Group 11.

New

11

Provided reports from CFALD, pointed inquirer to Group 11 page on website, and invited her to bring this family up to date in our records.

226

Inquirer sent ancestry back to James Chandler b 1761 NC, and proposed that someone in the past confused John W Anthony and John Coley Anthony, plus picked up Reuben Anthony b 1848 (married Yarborough, with daughter Paralee). Reuben Anthony b 1848 is listed in John W Anthony's 1860 Jackson Co., GA, household. “It looks as if Reuben Anthony is from the Anthony/Davis line, rather than the Anthony/Chandler line. I do not believe Reuben Anthony is a Chandler descendant.”

New

7A

Inquirer’s mother was in CFALD so reports were sent. Lineage in CFALD: John > Robert > Robert > Joseph > Joseph > James M. born 1761 NC > Elizabeth Chandler b 1798 GA > Martin C Anthony b1833 GA > George Washington Anthony b1861 > Susan Anthony b1891 > Betty Jordan  Corrections from inquirer have been added to CFALD.

227

Calvin Conant Chandler of Chandlersville, OH, married Eliza Ann Hale, b 1820 in Pennsylvania. Inquirer wants information about Eliza Ann and her parents.

No

13

Calvin C. Chandler was a descendant of Edmund Chandler b c 1588, a member of the Pilgrim Fathers who were harried out of England by King James, spent some time in Leiden, Holland, and migrated to the New World. Unable to find Eliza’s parents.

228

John Chandler, b in 1863 probably MA, married Lucy Brigham Foster in 1888.

No

9

This John Chandler descends from William and Annis Chandler who migrated from Hertfordshire, England in 1637 and settled in Roxbury, Massachusetts.

229

James A. Chandler, unknown dob or dod, born in TX > Edgar James Chandler b Jan 11, 1879 TX d. 1925, Washington AR > Harvey Stephen Chandler b Jan 10, 1905 Eureka Springs, AR d. Oct 9, 1991 Fayettville AR > Edgar James Chandler b Apr 28, 1924, Eureka Springs, AR

New

 

Edgar James Chandler states in more than one census record that his father was born GA, not TX. James A. Chandler’s census record for 1880 also says he was born GA. Without more information no connection could be made in CFALD. After collaboration, the following lineage was listed: ? Chandler b SC > James A. Chandler b TX > Edgar James Chandler b 1879 TX (or GA) > Harvey Stephen Chandler b 1905 AR > Edgar James Chandler b 1924 AR

230

Richard Chandler b abt 1765 VA > John Chandler b 1813 TN > James Clark Chandler b 1857 TN > Robert Roy Chandler b 1891 TN > Ray Jones Chandler b 1918 TX. Would like to make connection.

New

7A

Because your DNA is known to belong to Group 7A, we should link your Richard Chandler (b 1765 VA d abt 1834 Blount Co, TN) to a Group 7A father in CFALD. However, an earlier researcher has that Richard as the 12th child of Isaac 1732-1797, and some other descendants of that Isaac have DNA-tested into a different group (#2). It is possible that a Chandler family hundreds of years ago adopted one or more orphaned. An adopted male child would be the progenitor of a new genetic Chandler family. If we find Group 2 DNA Chandlers in England, that will indicate adoption is unlikely and the lineage of American Group 2 has been incorrectly researched. CFALD now attributes 7A DNA to Richard and all his Chandler descendants but does not link Richard to any parent.

231

Judah Chandler, b 13 Aug 1720 in Duxbury, MA, was the son of Joseph Chandler and Martha Hunt. There are accounts of his participation in the battle to capture the British ship Margaretta at Machias, ME, but nothing to prove his militia service.

No

13

Fold3, formerly known as Footnotes, did not have a record of Judah's military service. Without government military records, the case must be built through records showing Judah participated in opposing the British. It appears that citizens, including Judah, from Machias and nearby towns were not part of organized militia and that they spontaneously went after the Margaretta. Several websites about the Margaretta and Machias were shared.

232

William Burns was born 1756 in Halifax, VA; his wife, Nancy Chandler was born April 22, 1761 in VA. Her parents were Joel Chandler born ca. 1740 in Henrico, VA, died Nov. 1800 in NC, and Jane __. There are Revolutionary War records for a Joel Chandler and DAR records for a Joel Chandler of NC.

No

7A

CFALD indicates Nancy Chandler born April 22, 1761, daughter of Joel born 1740, did not marry William Burns. The Nancy Chandler (born 1772) who married a William Burn(e)s was the daughter of William Chandler born 1730. Sent CFALD reports on the William Chandler line and invited more discussion.

233

Maternal grandfather: Henry Lafayette Chandler b1887 Texas – 1905 California.

New

 

Parents of Henry Lafayette Chandler were John L Chandler born AR in 1853 who married Frances, a Texas girl, about 1883.

234

Inquirer has a small red book from the 1850s-60s called “Boquet Album,” filled with notes, poems and drawings for Rebecca A. Lunbeck. The authors of the notes include her (sibling?) Sam, friends Sallie Blain, Molly from Piketon Ohio, Millie, Bell, Maggie, Sue and other various names. The cities listed include Chillicothe, Kingsville, and Piketon Ohio. In between the pages was an obituary for Mrs. Alice Johnston who lived in Philadelphia but was a long time resident of Springfield and Kansas City, Missouri. A letter from Rebecca Lunbeck was found online: http://tinyurl.com/d5gocwp

No

7B

This family is Group 7B in the Chandler DNA Project and is called "the George & Jane line." They left Wiltshire in England with their family (except their eldest son) for the New World in 1687. Sarah Chandler Blaine born 1838 is the Sally Blaine to whom Rebecca A Lunbeck 1828-1907 wrote. Sally married Stephen Slone in 1865. We are unable to see any relationship between Rebecca and her rather younger correspondent Sally. Sam is a sibling (as you suggested) - i.e. her brother Samuel Gibson Lunbeck 1831-1871; Bell could be her sister Isabella Jane born 1823; and Sue could be Susan formerly Carson, who married Rebecca's brother William Henry.

235

Whitfield Chandler (b Oct 1782 VA; d 22 Feb 1874  Abingdon, Knox, IL) and Jesse Chandler (b 19 Dec 1813 in Springfield, Fayette, IN; d 21 Jul 1893 Terre Haute, Henderson, IL – was Whitfield was Jesse’s father? The 1810 Census from German Township, Springfield, PA, shows Whitfield Chandler married, with two daughters between the ages of 0-5 years of age. This was 3 years before Jesse was born in Springfield, Fayette, PA.

Yes

 

The hypothesis that Jesse was the son of Whitfield is quite plausible, but we could not find proof. The New FamilySearch (NFS) system of the LDS Church does show Jesse as the son of Whitfield. We suggested inquirer follow up with the contributors. NFS shows Jesse had a brother Alfred 1810-1876, which fits with Whitfield's family adding two children under 10 in the decade 1810-1820 according to censuses. Information from NFS should be validated by inquirer.

236

William Chandler married Lucy Lambert Hale in 1874, as related in "Killing Lincoln" by Dugard & O'Reilly. Is this William Chandler in the George and Jane Chandler lineage? Lucy Lambert was formerly John Wilkes Booth's fiancée.

No

 

Panel believes this was William Eaton Chandler. Neither WEC nor his father Nathan S Chandler appear in the George and Jane lineage, nor do they appear in the other two major lines - descendants of Edmund Chandler of Duxbury MA and of William & Annis Chandler of Roxbury MA. The line of Roger Chandler of Concord was also checked, again without success. There are a number of trees online which include WEC and his father NSC, but none which ascend any higher. Encyclopedia Britannica has "William Eaton Chandler (born Dec 28, 1835 Concord NH - died Nov 30 1917 Concord), American Politician and Republican Party official who played a major role in swinging the disputed 1876 presidential election to Rutherford B Hayes." Rutherford Hayes was himself a descendant of William & Annis via Chloe Chandler, his great grandmother. There seems to be no family connection.

237

James Chandler had sons Paul and Berman. Paul’s son was Jimmy, and Berman’s son was Bobby. Inquirer believes there is a connection to “Happy” Chandler.

No

4?

Happy Chandler and those in his family are members of Genetic Chandler Family #4. Inquirer was pointed to the Group 4 story on the website, especially Group 4’s Thomas, who had a son James.

238

Thomas Chaloner, born 1840 in Wexford, Ireland,  was a member of  Genetic Chandler Family #58. Before he emigrated from Ireland he was known as Thomas Chaloner.

New

58

Genetic family #58 is definitely the line to which you refer. We had did research for a descendant named Challoner in Ireland, and we were able to put him in touch with an American descendant. This inquirer was already in touch with the Irish correspondent.

239

Thomas Chandler b abt 1838 is believed to be from the Reding, Berkshire, area in England. Thomas was perhaps a sailor, sea captain, or a ship merchant. Chandler cousin has taken DNA test at Ancestry – can those results be translated to FTdna?

New

7?

We responded with information on a couple of possible candidates for this Thomas Chandler and asked for more information on inquirer’s lineage and also info on possible matches about which he wrote. Inquirer belongs to Group 7 but don’t know which sub-group just yet.

240

New member submitted lineage and asked questions about DNA result.

New

7A

We had concerns about the lineage presented by this new member. A report from CFALD was sent. Adjusted lineage: John > Robert > Robert > Joseph > James> Shadrack > Jedediah > William Mackey > James Augustus > James E. > Dewitt

241

Hannah Chandler b abt. 1756, in England - her marriage to John Taylour (Taylor) at Rotherfield, Sussex, England on 12-23-1779 is the first record of her. Her children are: John, Joseph, Jesse, George, David, William and Ann Taylor. Children were all baptized at St. Deny’s Church in Rotherfield. Jesse Taylor, son of Hannah and John, and wife Elizabeth came to NY in 1835. Family history tells the Taylor family was from primarily Kent and Sussex. Weald Ancestry forum says John Taylor married Hannah Chandler at St. Deny’s, but John’s father is listed as Nicholas.

New

 

Extracts of English parish records show that Hannah Chandler and John Taylour were married on 24 December 1779 at Rotherfield. There was a baptism of a Hannah Chandler, daughter of Edward and Ann(ie) Chandler at Speldhurst on 26 July 1767. The birth of Hannah Ann Chandler occurred on 23 February 1766. If this is your Hannah, she would have been nearly 14 at the time of her marriage. She had a sister Sarah who was christened at Speldhurst on 31 July 1768. Their father Edward may well have been the Edward, son of Ward and Mary Chandler, who was christened at Speldhurst on 5 January 1748. Ward could be a diminutive name for Edward.”

242

William and Maria Chandler married 28 February 1853 in San Francesco. Australian inquirer’s family had always thought they originated in London. Inquirer provided a document with Queensland and New South Wales births, deaths, and marriages.

No

 

We found no trace of the g-g-grandfather’s marriage in San Francisco in 1853 and cannot find him in the US Federal Censuses of 1850 or 1860. There is no suitable William Chandler in the 1852 California State Census. There was a servant surnamed Chandler with no recorded forename, aged 33, born in England and living in San Francisco, having previously lived in London. This would bear out the English link. However, he is recorded as a Negro. It is not clear from the census record for whom he was a servant.

243

New member submitted following Group 7A lineage: John > Robert > Robert > Joell > Joel Chandler > John Chandler > William Boyd Chandler > William Taylor Chandler > Jesse W. Chandler > Jesse Ray Chandler.

New

7A

After several email exchanges, this line was found in CFALD with some differences in names. Corrected lineage: John > Robert > Robert > Joell > Joel > John B Chandler b 1775 > William Bryce “Long Bill” Chandler b 1820 > William H. Taylor Chandler b 1848 > Jesse B Chandler b 1894 > Jesse Ray Chandler b 1927

244

Bedfordshire/Buckinghamshire in the UK seem to be inquirer’s Chandler origins but stem from an unmarried Sophia Chandler who had a son, Zinna Hitchcock Chandler. DNA may be Hitchcock rather than Chandler.

No

 

We agree that records indicate Zinna would not have Chandler DNA and suggested searching for a descendant of one of Sophia’s brothers or uncles for DNA testing. Help was offered with this effort, but nothing further from inquirer.

245

Frances Alexandra Chandler b c. 1834 in OH (possibly in/near Henry County, Liberty Township) married George Carver b 1812-14 in NY. He was a Civil War Captain or Major (1st wife: Margaret + 2/3 sons) In c. 1863-4, they lived in Texas, OH (believed in/near Henry County). There were three daughters: Cora, Anna, and Daisy Luella who married Frederick Gordon Ellinwood, Sr. Frances' father was Philo Chandler from Vermont; mother was ? Green from Pennsylvania.

New

 

Panel responded with questions and suggestions for further research;

246

William Chandler (born 1693 in New Kent County, VA; died 1779 in Halifax County, VA) - Inquiry from 2011 brought forward to provide reports from CFALD to descendant of above William Chandler who plans to submit GEDCOM for CFALD.

Yes

 

Three CFALD reports were sent and more were offered if needed.

247

John Chandler b 1600 had a son by the name of Robert Chandler. Is there proof of this?

New

7A

There is no ABSOLUTE proof that Robert was a son of John Chandler. CFA has accepted the research findings of Joe Chandler, who assembled a substantial body of circumstantial evidence published in a series of articles in "Tidewater Virginia Families."

248

James Forest Chandler of Arkansas – searching for his ancestors. He and his brother left home around turn of the century. The brother (name unknown) was killed by a bear on the journey. James ended up in Texas, married, and had five children.

No

 

A Texas death record was found for James Forest Chandler (born 1874 in Pine Bluff, Jefferson Co., AR), son of "Isace" born TN. Various census records show Isaac as born AR or TN, with a wife Rochia or Rodisa (possibly Rhoda Saffin or Saffire Crouse who married Issac L or T Chandler 1855 in Dallas County, AR). Some sources have this Issac as the son of Parks Chandler. This line has caused controversy for years.

249

William Chandler (1617 - 1701) – Inquirer provided her descent from this William by his daughter Hester, m. Gage, and her daughter Naomi, m. Bedford.

No

 

Either a paper trail to determine William of Newbury’s ancestry is non-existent on this side of the Atlantic or has not been found. Some ancestry.com trees incorrectly claim William of Newbury is the son of William and Annis Chandler of Roxbury. The best way to determine ancestry is to f a candidate for the DNA Project.

250

Daniel Dial Chandler (b 1783, d 1843 Sumter District, SC) – looking for confirmation his father is either Samuel or Lt. Thomas Chandler.

Yes

5

We have Daniel Dial’s father as Thomas Chandler 1755-1818, and we have the father of that Thomas as Samuel 1733-1786. Some Group 5 participants claim Samuel's father was John born 1697 in NC, but that John is claimed by a different DNA Group, so we have not put that link into our records.

251

William Chandler, great-grandfather, lived in Welling, Kent, probably around the 1880's/1890's. He migrated to Capetown, SA, and there married Louisa Eckard. They are the parents of Raymond Chandler born 22 June 1896. Inquirer has searched English census records and cannot see William recorded.

New

 

A William Chandler aged 27, so born about 1863, a miner, left England for Cape Town aboard the Duart Castle on 18 March 1890. A William Chandler aged 33, so also born about 1863, a clerk, left London for Cape Town aboard the Maori, whose ultimate destination was New Zealand, on 10 June 1896. These two could have been the same man at different stages of his life. Information from English census records was also provided and asked inquirer several questions to facilitate research.

252

Levi Chandler born in 1802 and lived in Mitchell County, NC, had a daughter Jane Caroline who married a Cox. A will indicates Levi’s parents were John and Elizabeth Chandler.

No

 

We have part of the story and plenty of questions to inspire additional research. Levi Presley Chandler born 1802, with parents John and Elizabeth, is in CFALD. Searching for Elisha Chandler born 1732 (Levi’s ancestor according to CFALD) in our newsletter archives, we found an article about “Toe River Valley Chandlers.” Returning to CFALD with information from the article, we found Elisha Chandler born 1721 – but descendants of Elisha and the ancestry of Levi do not currently connect in the database. Possibly you can help us make that connection – or disprove it. Reports from CFALD and the “Toe River Chandlers” article were provided.

253

Dow Lorenzo Chandler is great-grandfather. There is Cherokee Indian in the family. The family Bible says Dow’s parents were Indian – one full, the other is 3/4 or ½. Help requested in proving native side.

No

 

We cannot provide additional information concerning the ancestry of Jonathan Chandler. You mentioned Little Chandler is thought to be 1/2 to full blood Native American; however, there is no evidence that Little's mother -- Elizabeth Elrod -- had Native American heritage. Jonathan would have to be full blood Native American for Little and his sister Mahala to be half blood, so it appears unlikely that they were 3/4 to full blood. A search of the 1860 Cherokee Census did not disclose any information supporting a connection with your family. A link to a website which specializes in Native American (Indian) genealogy was provided: http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/

254

Joel Chandler’s father was Joel Chandler b circa 1685 VA. Is this correct? Do you have other information about this Joel? I am working on a DAR lineage to the second Joel Chandler.

New

7A

CFALD reports were provided and information from Chandlers in the American Revolution February 1997 newsletter article. Those researchers did not find any evidence of service in the Revolutionary War by Joel born 1740.

255

James Milton Chandler was b about 1851 Boston, MA and d 1917 Tolland, MA. His father is James Franklin Chandler b 1884 Tolland, MA and d 1965 Westfield, MA.Inquirer’s father was David W. Chapman b 1931 Westfield, MA and d in 2005 Bellows Falls, VT.  

New

 

Panel suggested that James Madison Chandler found in "The Descendants of William and Annis Chandler" fits almost exactly the profile provided and the findings in previous correspondence. Note the name is James Madison Chandler, not James Milton Chandler. DNA testing strongly suggested.

256

Vivian Ann Chandler (1917-1985) was the daughter of Ernest Matthew Chandler b 1894 in Ansted, WV, and Gladys Martin b 1896 Gatewood. Chandler is in both lines going back to Giles county VA. Gladys Martin's mother. Flora Vaught from Giles County, VA, was married to William Henry Martin on 10-11-1893 in Mercer County, WV. Her parents are buried in E. E. Cook cemetery (Spruce Run): Rufus Floyd Vaught (b 4-9-1842 d.2-24-1931) and Elizabeth Hannah Cook Vaught (b 12-6-1850 d. 12-21-1923). Rufus Floyd Vaught is the son of Levi Horsely Vaught and Lucinda CHANDLER Vaught.

     Ernest Matthew Chandler was the son of James M Chandler (born about 1861 in Giles County VA) and Leah A. Thompson. On the marriage record James' parents are listed as Green and Elisabeth Chandler.

 

 

No

 

We provided a link for a Rootsweb post made by H. Thomas Chandler which contained an exhaustive amount of information concerning the Chandler family in question. Other online information seemed to confirm and support the information contained in that Rootsweb post. Supporting information was the following:

·         Censuses from 1810 through 1940 for Franklin and Giles counties in Virginia and Fayette and Kanawha counties in West Virginia at Ancestry.com

·         Cemetery info at the Find-A-Grave website

·         Photocopies of vital records at the official West Virginia government archives website

All of the combined information seemed to support the enquirer's belief that she is descended from two lines of Chandlers which had a common ancestor. The combined information seemed to support this conclusion and further identified the probable ancestor as Jesse Chandler who probably died around 1829 in Franklin Co, VA. Links to the online information above were supplied to the enquirer and a suggestion was made for her to follow up with her own research to ascertain the facts.

257

Robert Chandler (1761-1831, served 6 years in the Continental Army) was adopted at 16 from unknown Chandlers in Woodstock, CT. Guardianship was awarded at reportedly age 15 to Jedediah Morse (grandfather of Samuel Morse) on 27 July 1776 by Charles Church Chandler, JP in Woodstock, Windham, CT. Robert stayed a year, enlisted in the Continental Army in 1777, and spent the winter in Valley Forge with Washington. He mustered out in 1783 on a medical discharge. He enlisted in the Army again for the War of 1812 as a surgeon and practiced medicine in Gibson, PA, dying there in 1831 and buried in an unmarked grave. In 2004 one of his descendants found him and got a proper marker erected.  The DAR confirmed his service.

New

36

DNA testing matched Group 36, descendants of Robert S. Chandler, born Connecticut 1760, died Pennsylvania 1831.

     Inquirer and others have speculated that Robert was an unrecorded or even illegitimate child of John Chandler, the "Honest Tory," since the Guardianship agreement of July 1776, was shortly after John fled to Nova Scotia. John had perhaps as many as 17 children. In addition, Charles Church Chandler, Justice of the Peace handling the guardianship, was Mary Church Chandler's (second wife of Honest John) nephew, so a connection is possible. Or Robert could have been a favorite indentured servant of the John Chandler family who took the Chandler name. Inquirer plans to collaborate on a family story for the website for Group 36.

258

Joseph Winfield Chandler (born Newark, NJ, died 2003 at age 86). Father Joseph was a dentist in Newark and his uncle was Alfred, reputed to be the dentist to 3 presidents, Truman, Roosevelt and one other. Captain Alfred Chandler Jr. married Nancy Ann Wynn of the Wynn family in Las Vegas. Joseph’s father’s mother was Bessie Chandler, maiden name believed to be White.

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We were able to take her lineage back to John W. Chandler who was born in England and immigrated in 1865. Both of his parents were born in England. Inquirer is currently searching for a suitable DNA subject.

259

Zachariah Chandler (Greenville, SC, and Caldwell County, KY) is in the 1790 census as head of household with five females. He and his one son and four daughters relocated to Caldwell County, KY, where he died in 1837. His first son was named Josiah, born approx. 1795. His second son by a second marriage to Elizabeth Boyd was Solomon King born in 1823. Census information indicates Zachariah was born between 1771 and 1775. There is a connection with the families of Timothy, son of Joel, and Solomon King, son of William H. Chandler. Inquirer believes Zachariah was the orphan of one of the casualties of the Revolutionary War at Fishing Creek, SC: Obediah born 1753 or Joseph born 1749, both sons of Joel. In the published information on these men killed in action, there were no spouses or children listed. It was suggested by the Caldwell County historian that the five females could have been survivors of these men. Joel and William families lived in the Ninety Six District in 1779. Inquirer wrote: “All of the information suggested in the newsletters of the Chandler Association are incorrect for this Zachariah Chandler especially his marriage to Rachael Thornhill in 1791. I plan a trip to Greenville, SC, to see if I can find any further information on Zachariah and the men I have listed. Can you guide me in where I should begin my search?”

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We explained problems with researching this family, shared the information available, and invited inquirer to cooperate in examining the research relating to Zachariah, his ancestry and descendants.

260

Iris Chandler is the daughter of John Burton Chandler (1895-1970) and Grace Pearl Green. John is the son of Abraham Edes Chandler (1846-1938) and Dollie Hughes. Abe is the son of John A.W. Chandler (b abt 1809) and Martha Wells, all of whom lived in Kanawha County, VA/WV. Abraham is buried in Teays Hill Cemetery with a Richard C. Chandler and R.C. Chandler that is listed as John's father elsewhere, undocumented.

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We sent reports from CFALD: (1) ancestry report for Abraham Eades Chandler, and (2) descendancy report for John Anthony Wayne Chandler. Also information from newsletter archives.

Lineage: John Chandler b 1600 ENG > Robert Chandler b c 1629 VA > Robert Chandler b 1654 VA > Joseph Chandler b 1696 VA > John Chandler b 1726 VA > Richard Chandler b 1749 VA > Richard Carter Chandler b 1772 VA > John Anthony Wayne Chandler b 1808 WV > Abraham Eades Chandler b 1846 WV > John Burton Chandler b 1895 > Iris Chandler

261

Larkin Craig Chandler, believed to originally from Illinois, lived in New York and was a wonderful music teacher, a true gentleman and very well liked.

 

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Larkin Craig Chandler not in our database but a look on FamilySearch found possibly the correct one, born 1905. Family­Search led to CFALD where we found an ancestor, a member of DNA Group 4. Possible lineage: Thomas Chandler b 1725 in New Kent County, VA > Thomas Chandler b 1750 in Prince Edward County, VA > William Chandler b 1781 in Prince Edward County, VA > Thomas Boyd Chandler b 1806 in Nottoway County, VA > Edward Young Chandler b 30 March 1831 in Bedford, Trimble County, KY > Larkin Craig Chandler b 1864 in Gillespie, IL. Larkin Craig Chandler Jr. born 1905 or 1906 in Salem, MA. Inquirer, a former music student, has written a memoir about Larkin Craig Chandler for newsletter.

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 “As a child I remember a bound book of my great grandmother’s family tree. This book began in early 1600's and ended with my Father and his siblings, The name on the cover was Chandler. The book is long lost and I would like to recover its contents. I thought this could be possible because my great grandmother, Elizabeth Garner was a cousin of John Nance Garner, VP of the US. Any suggestions?”

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Several emails were exchanged and the ECFA consulted. We were never able to pin down the book inquirer is looking for. We suggested it might have been privately published.

263

William Wood Chandler Jr. of Lyons, Kansas, was president of the Chandler Bank in that town in the 50s-60s. Inquirer owns a 1953 MG TD which was his originally and is trying to build a history of the car.

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We provided this information to Georgia Chandler, a member of the family in question, and suggested that she write to the inquirer.

264

James Walter Chandler was b 18 Sep 1885 KS. WWI Registration Card, completed in Troutdale, OR, on 12 Sept. 1918, shows J C Cole of Topeka, KS, as his nearest relative. He is on the 1920 US Census as Jas. W. Chandler with wife Carrie and son Jerome in Yamhill County, OR. Carrie's birth name is Carrie Luana Brook born in Colville (Stevens) WA. She married James Walter Chandler (age 33) in Vancouver (Clark) WA 5 Oct 1918. They lived in Sandy, OR. She died 10 Dec 1995 in Portland [Multnomah] OR.

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Contact with this inquirer has been lost due to a non-functioning email address.

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Robert Chandler b abt 1775 in Norton-Lindsey married Anne Walton in 1800 in Claverdon, Warwickshire, Nov 1800. John Chandler was b 1806 in Claverdon with siblings born in Norton-Lindsey. No birth record can be found for Robert Chandler, probably born between 1765-1780 (he married in 1800). Lineage proposed by inquirer: Robert Chandler > John Chandler b Sept, 1806 in Claverdon, Warwickshire, England > William Chandler b May 24, 1840 in Alveston, Warwickshire, England > Henry Chandler b July 28, 1872 in Alveston, Warwickshire, England

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Panel responded with a discussion of contacts in England in the same general area and a possible connection with DNA Group 8. Inquirer declined offer to be put in touch with Group 8 Chandlers in England.

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Elizabeth Chandler b 1770 and Nancy Chandler b 1795 are both in inquirer’s ancestry.

ELIZABETH CHANDLER

Elizabeth Chandler b ca 1770 perhaps in Halifax Co, VA, was the daughter of Robert Chandler and Mary Hamblin. Around 1790 she married Lt. John Yates, veteran of the Revolution, in Halifax Co., VA. Robert was the son of William Chandler and Elizabeth who left a will in Halifax Co., VA, and proven there May, 1779. Her daughter, Christinia Yates, married Rev. William Martin Brown. They lived their married life in Hart County, KY.

NANCY CHANDLER

Nancy Chandler was b ca 1795 perhaps in Halifax Co, Va. She married Peter Perkins there in 1818. They evidently remained in the VA and NC area until ca 1836 when they emigrated to KY and finally settled in Green County, KY, ca 1837 (listed in the 1850 Green County, KY, federal census). Nancy’s lineage is unknown. She and Peter Perkins had the following children: Mariah, Elizabeth, William Jackson, Sarah B, Claiborne Chandler, Nancy, Martha Jane, Peter, John Bales, and George Perkins. These children were born either in Halifax or Caswell, VA; NC; or KY. Since Nancy Chandler and Peter Perkins named one of their sons Claiborne Chandler Perkins, there may be a connection to the Claiborne Chandler who married Elizabeth Dobson. Do you know of proof of other children?

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CFALD has the spelling of Elizabeth's married surname as Yeates, as does Annamae Chandler. CFALD report on the descendants of John and Elizabeth Yeates was provided. Inquirer provided some information we did not have. As to the other Chandler line, we don't have Peter Perkins in CFALD or, apparently, his wife Nancy Chandler. We must remember that Nancy is a pet form of Ann, but that doesn't help here because we don't have a suitable Ann, Anne, Annie or Anna either. The name of Claiborne Chandler Perkins does seem a strong clue. CFALD has only the two children of Claiborne Chandler and Elizabeth Dodson (note spelling) - Judith born 1787 and Claiborne born 1793. It seems entirely possible that Claiborne and Elizabeth had other children. Claiborne had a younger sister Nancy born about 1770 so it is not inconceivable that one of those unrecorded children was your Nancy.

    We have not been able to locate a record of the marriage of Nancy Chandler to Peter Perkins in 1818. If you can provide a source for that, we would be willing to add them and all their descendants to the CFA Lineages Database, attributed to your research and showing a tentative, suitably annotated link of Nancy as a possible daughter of Claiborne and Elizabeth Dodson. If correct, this would mean that both your Chandler lines descend from John Chandler born 1600 in England who arrived in VA in 1610. Inquirer was put in touch with member with similar lineage.

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Mary Linehan Chandler born Trinidad, 1841

Father: Thomas Linehan

Mother: Mary B. Vallire

This information from https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FHGX-C9V  

Note both parents have different last names according to this record. According to various US census records, her parents were either born in England or Spain

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It is likely that Mary acquired the surname Chandler by marriage, though we are unable to trace that marriage, anywhere in the world. Both Linehan and Mal(l)oy are typically Irish surnames in origin, and Vallire is typically French, though Mary B Vallire was reportedly born in Madrid, Spain and Thomas Linehan in London, England. The place in North America where people of Irish and French origins are frequently found together is in Eastern Canada, and indeed the 1880 Census says James W Maloy was born in Nova Scotia. That Census shows James' widowed mother as Mary, whereas the 1865 marriage record has his mother as Susan Conley (another common Irish surname).Nova Scotia Vital Records https://novascotiagenealogy.com/ has quite a few Linehans and Malloys, but none seem to relate to your folk. We can find no trace of Mary's birth in Trinidad. No clues at the Trinidad & Tobago GenWeb site - http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ttowgw/.

268

Lewis P. Hobgood of Hopkins, KY married Mary Ann Chandler. Her father is Washington Chandler who married Letha Morrow. Washington's parents are John B. Chandler and Rebecca McVay.

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Mary Ann Chandler and Lewis P Hobgood are in CFALD. Ancestry and descendant reports were sent and additions to CFALD were invited. Newsletter with Madonna Mahurin’s article about “Early Chandlers in Hopkins County, KY” was provided.

269

Eli Chandler, Texas Ranger -- I am interested in information about Captain Eli Chandler. Can you share info about his life and Ranger career? Is the location of his grave known and does he have a headstone?

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A link to the Spring 2011 newsletter, with the article “Eli Chandler and the Texas Archive War” by Glenn Chandler, was sent. Also excerpt with information on Eli Chandler from Glenn’s presentation at the 2011 meeting and a report from CFALD showing Eli’s ancestry back to John Chandler born 1600.

270

John Chandler owned a home (Wheatlands Plantation) in Sevierville, TN. As one of the current owners, I would like to inquire about the family line to this home.

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Report from CFALD of the lineage of John Chandler (JRR Joell > Timothy) was provided, also a link to a recent newsletter with an article about Wheatlands. Honorary membership was extended to Richard Parker (not a Chandler descendant) as the representative of Wheatlands Plantation.

271

William Grant Chandler is my great-great grandfather. I know he was born on August 1, 1864 and died January 8, 1933. He was married to Melissa Foster who was born in May of 1868 and she died on July 15, 1951.

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After discussing a number of possible William Chandlers, we wrote: “William who married Melissa or Malisa Foster was sometimes known as Will, and that ‘Will and Malissa Foster’ had a child named James Leon on 6 May 1919 in Chattanooga. That child lived only 10 days and died of "birth weakness". They apparently also had Bess(ie) in 1908, Fannie May in 1911, and a son Andy in 1905. Before we go any further we need to hear from you whether you accept that it was William or Will Chandler who married Melissa or Malisa or Malissa Foster, and that William G Chandler born NC in 1836 was that William's father, and that his second forename was Granison not Grant. William Granison H Chandler belongs to a line about which we have quite a few questions, and your descent may help us answer some of those questions. Nothing further.

272

Daniel Dial Chandler born 1 Nov 1783 and died 24 Aug 1843 in Sumter, SC – can anyone help me with his ancestry? One of his sons, Joseph Benson Chandler, is my g-ggrandfather.

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We have the ancestry of Joseph Benson Chandler as Daniel Dial Chandler > Thomas Chandler 1755 SC Camden - 1818 SC Sumter > Samuel Chandler 1733 - 1786 SC Pee Dee. We do not as yet know the origins of 1733 Samuel. DNA tests of descendants of this line show it as Genetic Chandler Family #5. When we locate Family #5 DNA Chandlers in England it may give us the clue Samuel's origins.

273

William Grafton of the Parish of St Michael in the City & Diocese of Gloucester batchelor & Martha Chandler of this Parish spinster were Married in this Church by License 5th February 1795 (Deerhurst parish Gloucestershire UK).” Their witnesses were Wm Chandler & Elizabeth Chandler who I assume were her parents. There is a possibility that Wm Chandler was christened in Bristol in 1759 father Nicolas/ Mother Mary). I assume this only because it is the same county. I am an Australian who is currently residing in the UK.

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Gloucestershire and Kent have for a long time been the two English counties most densely populated with Chandlers. We know quite a bit about the Chandlers of Gloucestershire, some of whom were ancestors of Kate Middleton, now the Duchess of Cambridge, and others are related to the man who founded the Chandler Motor Company, described in the attached complimentary newsletter.

274

Laban Shufford Chandler born Feb 11, 1850 in Cleveland County, NC, and died July 24, 1930, was my great-grandfather. While his name is unique and easy to find, Grandfather Laban’s father was simply named John Chandler along with many other John Chandlers. So I’ve been frustrated by trying to determine which of those Johns is my great-great grandfather.

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Laban Shufford Chandler in CFALD was born Feb 1850. Annamae Barber Chandler refers to him on pages 64/65 of her "Red Book" (Discovering Chandler Lines 1475-1996 in Tennessee Death Records 1908-1944). L Shuford (one f) Chandler was the spouse and informant of the death of Angeline J Williams (record 467-11965Wa) aged 75 born 3 Dec 1853 Burnsville NC died 6 Mar 1929. The children of Shuford and Angie are shown as Chester born 1881, Fred 1883, Anne 1891, Laban 1893 and Earl 1896. There is no reference in the book to the parents of Laban Shuford Chandler. The 1850 Census of Cleveland Co, NC has Laban S Chandler aged 6 months born NC in the home of his parents John (a Millwright aged 36) and Frances (30) both born NC. CFALD does not have a suitable John and Nancy. Information on graves was found online and forwarded. DNA Project participation was strongly suggested.

275

Edward B. Chandler of San Antonio – Photos of this couple are needed by Morningside Ministries Senior Living Communities, a faith-based, not-for-profit retirement community in San Antonio, Texas, to which Mr. and Mrs. Chandler donated their estate several years ago.

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Panel provided background on the family and posted a query asking for pictures. Query also posted on Facebook Group page. Small announcement was inserted in Spring 2012 newsletter. Edward B Chandler was a descendant of William and Annis Chandler, DNA Group 9. Request posted on William and Annis website. Note: photos of the estate can be seen at http://chandlerfamilyassociation.org/queries.html.)

276

John W. Chandler was the father of William Parker Chandler b 1822 – all in Barbados. Inquirer searching for John W Chandler's parents, more about his wife Mary and where their ancestors came from.

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Panel discussed problems of research in Barbados, discussed and discounted several possibilities found in research, and strongly suggested a DNA test if a suitable relative can be found.

277

Joseph Chandler (1755 in Lunenburg County, VA), whose wife was Nancy Turman, is mentioned on page 167 of the CFA Newsletter of February 1997, as having served in the American Revolution. I need confirmation of this service that will satisfy the National Society Daughters of The American Revolution. I also need information on DNA program.

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After a discussion of the Chandler DNA Project, Panel informed inquirer, whose wife’s most recent male Chandler ancestor was Docktor Franklin Chandler born 1848, that we already have a participant who descends from Dock's brother Daniel Lumpkin Chandler born 1832 and his DNA does match Group 7A. Provided you can evidence descent from Dock, further DNA testing appears unnecessary. Joseph Chandler b1755 does not appear to have been verified as a patriot, which means definitive documentation will be required. Further assistance was offered.

278

Can Allen Chandler b 1787 NC and intervening generations be proven as descendants of John Chandler born 1600? Is there a connection between inquirer’s line and Gray Chandler buried in Friendship Cemetery, Columbus, MS? Are any of her Chandler ancestors eligible as a DAR ancestor? Are descendants born 1600 eligible for Colonial Dames? Returning member also had several questions regarding Jamestowne Society, DAR Patriots, Colonial Dames, and Chandler burials. Lineage: John Chandler b 1600 ENG > Robert Chandler b c 1629 VA > Robert Chandler b 1654 VA > Joseph Chandler b 1695 VA > Joseph Chandler b 1739 VA > James Chandler b 1761 NC > Allen Chandler b 1787 NC > Martin Anthony Chandler b abt 1821 GA > James B Chandler b abt 1848 > Simeon Allen Chandler b abt 1882 AL > Clovis Hamilton Chandler b 1919

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Panel responded that there are problems with proving the relationship of John born 1600 to his descendants and discussed the circumstantial evidence as laid out in Joe Chandler’s articles. Thurston Gray Chandler may be the Gray Chandler buried in Friendship Cemetery and, if so, there is a connection with her line. Neither Joseph born 1739 nor James born 1761 are known to have served in the Revolutionary War although Joseph did sign a Colonial Oath of Loyalty in 1778. We do not know if John’s descendants are eligible for Colonial Dames but did provide basic requirements for that organization. Inquirer will provide information for CFALD and also on DAR patriots named Chandler.

279

Please read this article about the Otis-Crowell wedding and let me know if the Chandlers were related to Harrison G. Otis. http://tinyurl.com/ob967at  

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Harrison Gray Otis, founder of the Los Angeles Times, was the father-in-law of Harry Chandler. Harrison Gray Otis of the Los Angeles Times was married to Eliza Ann Weatherby Otis (1833-1904). The Otis-Crowell wedding in the article was in 1890. We do not know whether Harrison G. Otis in that article, employed by Southern Pacific Railroad, was related to Harrison Gray Otis, publisher. Harrison Gray Otis, publisher, did not become related – by marriage – to Harry Chandler until Harry married Marian Otis in 1894. Harry Chandler was a descendant of William and Annis Chandler who settled in Roxbury, MA, in 1637 having migrated from Bishop's Stortford in Hertfordshire, England. Descendants of William and Annis Chandler belong to Group 9 in the Chandler DNA Project. Although we cannot attest to the accuracy, these two websites provide background information on Harry Chandler:

http://babcockancestry.com/books/chandler/003harrychandler.shtml; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Chandler

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New member believes lineage to be: John Chandler b 1600 > Robert Chandler Sr. b 1629 d. 1669 > Robert Chandler Jr. b 1659 d. 1720 > Joseph Chandler Sr. b 1700 d. 1764 > Joseph Chandler II b 1739 d. 1804 in Caswell County NC > James Chandler Sr. b 1761 d. 1809 > James Chandler Jr. b 1801 d. 1837 > William D. Chandler b 1822 d. 1897 > John Robert Chandler b 1847 d. 1904 > Richardson L. Chandler b 1874 d. 1946 > Pearline Chandler b 1913 d. 1983.

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Panel responded with information about a Chandler relative who has tested as part of Group 7A. Sent CFALD reports of the family – inquirer is already in database.

281

Henry Chandler b 1829 is my g-g-g-grandfather. I have traced this line back to around the Great Bedwyn/ Marlborough areas of Wiltshire, England.  The ancestors I have so far are: Possibly (but not sure) John Chandler (1801) married to Dinah (1796-1856) > Henry Chandler (1829) married to Sarah Gilbert (1827). Children: John (1855) Eliza (1857) Daniel (1861) Charles (1863) Fanny (1865) Kate (1867) John (1855) married Ann Alma Rushent (1857). The births may be a year out as they are from census forms. I am from England, and do not know whether any of my not yet discovered ancestors emigrated to the United States.

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Henry Chandler who married Sarah Gilbert on 1 November 1851 at East Grafton was christened at Little Bedwyn on 30 April 1830, the son of Edward and Hannah. This would be the Edward Chandler who married Hannah Meadham of Little Bedwyn at Froxfield on 29 October 1821. Edward Chandler was christened at Collingbourne Kingston on 23 September 1800, recorded as the base born (i.e. illegitimate) son of Elizabeth Chandler. She may have been the Betty Chandler christened at CK on 15 December 1773, who was again the base born daughter of Mary Chandler. The name Mary occurs so frequently in the 18th Century that it is impossible to decide which is most likely Betty's mother. “Base born" was an unnecessarily harsh expression the church used at the time. We asked for details of descent from known Chandlers.

282

Louis C. Chandler, believed to have died in 1950 around the age of 60, was one of the founders of the Osteopathic College in Los Angeles.

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Louis Charles Chandler was b 7 June 1886 in PA, the son of Charles Horace and Ellen Catherine Williams Chandler. Louis married Mary Seymour Johnson (b CA about 1890) in 1916. Louis' father Charles was a music merchant who married Ellen in 1883. Louis' grandfather was James E Chandler, a carpenter b CT about 1824; his grandmother was Eliza "Liza" Pearson b in England about 1831.

284

Herman Dalton Chandler of Poolville, TX, buried Poolvile Cemetery,  b 3-10-1912, d 9-21-1948. Wife was Nettie Lorene Short, b 10-24-1910, d 1-23-1985. Research by inquirer indicated this lineage: William Chandler b SC died 1755 SC > Benjamin Chandler b 1796 South Carolina  > Perry Chandler b 1839  > Henry Chandler b 1865

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A Texas death record shows Herman as b Parker County, TX, with parents Lee Chandler, b TN, and Effie Fallowill, b Parker County, TX. - so Lee and Effie, buried also at Poolville, are your g-grandparents. We could not locate in our database a William Chandler who died in SC in 1755. If William died in 1755 he couldn't be the father of Benjamin b 1796. We think your Benjamin is in the 1850 Census of District 10, Butler County, MO. He is 54, a farmer b SC, with wife Elma aged 33 b MO (looks like a second marriage), and children Noel (20) b SC; Perry (11); Wharton (9); and John (1) – all b MO. John looks like a child of the second marriage. Lee may have been aged 10 in the 1900 Census of Parker County. His birth is shown as Sept. 1889 (unlikely because his older brother Arthur shown as aged 11 was b in February 1889, so 1890 is a more likely birth year for Lee - though Find-A-Grave has it as 1891). Lee's parents are recorded as Henry aged 35, a farmer b MO whose parents were b in TN, and Katy aged 35 b MS, as were her parents. In 1900 they had had 7 children, all living. Lee, Mary (14), William (12), Arthur (11), Emery (8), Exter (5) and Walter (3).

285

Howell L Chandler, my 3x great grandfather, was b in 1818 in SC or VA. Can't find his father or beyond. Believe Howell’s father is Carter Chandler. My grandfather’s middle name was Carter. I can't find much on this Carter, except he married Alice White.

 

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Seeing the inquirer’s reference to the marriage of Carter Chandler to Alice White, we felt that the inquirer’s Carter was probably a descendant of Richard Chandler (b 1749 in Goochland Co, VA; died 1782 in Fluvanna Co, VA) who married Elizabeth Carter on 17 September 1770. One of their sons was Richard Carter Chandler b 1772. He married twice, had 8 children with his first wife, then married a lady who we have recorded as Alcey White – who we thought could have been the Alice referenced above.  However, the inquirer did further research and concluded that his lineage is Carter Chandler b c 1788 VA > Howell Lewis Chandler b 1818 VA > George Theolus Chandler b 1847 OH > Howell Francis "Frank" Chandler b 1877 IA > Lyle Carter Chandler b 1908 SD > Francis Lyle "Butch" Chandler b 1940 NY. (Updated 9-30-2013)

286

Gabriel (or G.M.) Chandler, b NC 1836 of unknown parentage was my g-g-g-grandfather was. He appeared in Washington Co., IL, in 1858 when he married Nancy A. Thompson. His marriage certificate showed him as John G. F. M. Chandler. They resided Perry Co., IL 1860; Washington Co., IL 1870; and Marion Co., IL 1880, where he died 1883.There were a number of Chandler families in that region of IL but I haven't been able to connect them. So I’m looking for a NC Chandler family who gave complex names to their children.

 

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The person you are looking for may be Gabriel Chandler b 1839 in Surry Co, NC, shown aged 11 in the 1850 Census, the same age as his sister Catherine. The family is indexed by Ancestry as Chanler, and that is understandable because that's what the census sheet actually says. Also the census schedule shows the mother as Mary not May. Gabriel's parents were both b in NC, which accords with Gabriel's later census records. CFALD reports were sent showing that Gabriel is a descendant of John Chandler b 1600. We asked for a response to the theory that the Gabriel inquirer is searching for is the one we have on record in CFALD as b 1839 in NC, son of James Chandler b 1800. Inquirer responded that he believed Panel’s information to be valid, and wrote, “Congratulations on a very well organized family association!”

287

Kate Chandler, b 1884, immigrated to Canada in 1907, where she married Charles Little. Charles immigrated from Inkpen, Berkshire, England, so am assuming that Kate came from the same area. Kate had a sister Lucy. Kate’s parents were Albert and Emily Louise Chandler. This information was on the marriage certificate issued in Elgin, Ontario on October 17, 1907. I have been unable to find Albert and Emily Louise on any documents available on the internet. Kate is my husband’s grandmother.

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Inkpen is near Hungerford in Berkshire, close to the county borders with Wiltshire and Hampshire. Although her parents took her to Hungerford at about the age of two, Louisa Kate was actually b in the Dover area, quite a distance away in the county of Kent. Her birth was registered at Dover in the second quarter of 1883. The births of her sisters Elizabeth Rebecca and Lucy Mabel were registered at Hungerford in Q1 1885 and Q4 1890 respectively. The reason for the relocation appears to be that their father Albert was a packer aged 37 on the Great Western Railway per the 1891 Census, when they were living at Park Street, Hungerford. Albert was b at Thatcham in Berkshire. His wife Emily Louisa (note spelling difference) was also aged 37 in 1891 - she was born in the part of London that then lay in the county of Surrey. Immediately adjacent to this family in 1891 was the household headed by widowed Lucy Chandler aged 49, a dressmaker born at Ham which is just over the county boundary in Wiltshire and very close to Inkpen.

      Albert and Emily Louisa BOTH came to the altar with the surname Chandler! The ceremony occurred at St James the Apostle in Dover on 17 May 1880. He was a bachelor Gunner in the RA (Royal Artillery) residing (presumably in the barracks) at Dover Castle, the son of Richard Chandler, a Labourer. She was a spinster of Dover, the daughter of David Chandler deceased.

      In the census before he married (1871), Albert is at home in Green Lane, Thatcham, Berkshire with his parents Richard and Rebecca. Richard was a Railway Labourer born Waterperry in Oxfordshire, and she was born in Hurst, Berkshire. Albert's siblings were Timothy (14), Ann (10) and James (8), all born in Thatcham.

      In 1851 before Albert was born, Richard (33) was already in Thatcham and married to Rebecca (27), with an earlier batch of children - Hannah (11), Susannah (9), Jane (8), Emma (5) and at last a son George (4), then another daughter Margaret (1).

      I think that Richard (who would have been about 23 in 1841), is the Stone Mason recorded as aged 20 at St Mary Magdalen in the city of Oxford. The census states that Richard was NOT born in the county (Oxfordshire), though that is not necessarily accurate. I have been unable to locate a suitable baptism record for Richard. The Berkshire Family History Society has transcribed his marriage record from the registers of St Nicholas in Hurst, Berkshire, which you will recall was Rebecca's home town. Richard Chandler "of Hurst" a Labourer who was of full age, married Rebecca Brooker "of Hurst", a minor, on 26 January 1840. His father is named as Thomas and hers as William, both Labourers. In the 1851 Census of Hurst, there is a victualler named Thomas Chandler aged 63 and born at Mortimer in Berkshire. His wife was Mary aged 68 born Newington, Surrey.

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Michael Chandler, inquirer’s g-g-g-grandfather, was b 1798-1800 in Ireland and died Geauga County, Ohio. G-g-grandparents were William H. Chandler b June 1825 Ireland d Trumbull Co, Ohio and Cathrine E Harter b 1829 possibly Allentown, PA d 1920-23 Ohio. They married 1905 and had 12 children. Inquirer asks where in Ireland they came from, and who they are connected to.

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In the New FamilySearch (NFS) system, your Michael is shown as Michael H Chandler born 1797, married in 1819 in Ireland to Frances F Ludlow, and died 21 October 1866 in Ohio. The availability of Irish records is very poor. Although Michael is a common Irish forename, we do not know of a single Michael Chandler born in Ireland. Chandler is not a native name of Ireland, so although Michael was born there, I doubt that his ancestors were - almost certainly they came from England, which ruled Ireland at that time. A great many records were destroyed during the Irish insurrection of Easter 1916. You mention that you have access to more information. If you can send this information, we will be glad to take another look.

289

Francis/Fanny Chandler is my wife’s connection to Robert & Parthena Chandler. My wife’s uncle is George Travis Powell, who wrote the book(s) "1616-1085 The Virginians - Thomas Powell and John Hardman." George's book contains the brief research he did on Robert Chandler and family. I'm still working on Robert Chandler. The proverbial "many people" name Joel Chandler as his father, but per normal, nobody cites a source.

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 The name of Uriah Hardman's wife was Frances "Fanny", not the male form Francis. and the name of her grandfather was Joell, not Joel. The evidence that Fanny's father Robert was the son of Joell is quite convincing, more so than for many 300-year-old parentage claims. It is collected in various pages of Annamae Barber Chandler's 449-page book "Discovering Chandler Lines 1475-1996 in Tennessee Death Records 1908-1944" (Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 96-97078 and ISBN # 0-965697-0-0).

290

J.R. Chandler, the founder of Ida. LA, was my grandfather. I am 87 years old, and I would like to learn more about my grandfather's family.

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A check of other family trees showed a Robert as the son of Josiah or Joseph who was the son of King Chandler. This is what led us to think that your Jonathan Robert Chandler AKA Robert may be descended from John Chandler of Jamestown. Several links were provided: to a draft card for possibly his father; to the history of Ida, LA; and to a 1900 census record for possibly his grandfather. None of the names mentioned seem to be in CFALD.

291

Joseph Chandler married Sarah Farmer (as shown in 2011 queries, pg 8 of 18)  - I have much the same for Joseph Chandler b ca 1755, son of Elisha, but much of my data is undocumented. Is there any proof for Elisha and son, Joseph? If Simeon Chandler (b ca 1785 NC married Amelia) and Ezekiel Chandler (b ca 1791 VA married Susannah) are brothers, and are sons of Joseph b ca 1755, is there any proof for this? Also, from census entries it would appear they were born in different states. For Simeon I have these children:

·         Elizabeth b ca 1815 married Ninevah Gosnell (my direct line)

·         Simeon b ca 1816 married Melinda, my direct line

·         John b ca 1822 married

·         George Washington b ca 1824 marr Holly Chandler, d/o Ezekiel and Susannah Chandler.

1830 Buncombe Co NC census shows Simeon with four sons and one daughter. Ezekiel Chandler shows first in 1820 Buncombe Co NC census, also in deeds and court records. I've found Simeon Chandler only in NC census records 1830-1850. I've not found him in Buncombe/Yancey Co deeds or court records. 1835 Poll Book NC 12th Congressional District does show a Simeon Chandler in Ivy District in Yancey Co. This could be Simeon b ca 1785 or his son, Simeon b ca 1816. Finally, does CFALD have anything on the Diana Chandler b ca 1760-1770 who shows on 1820 Buncombe Co census with 5 males and 2 females. These might be married children with spouses as 3 males are 16-26, as are 2 females. 1830 census shows only Diana, 60-70, with 1 F under 5, and 2 F 20-30. 1840 Yancey Co census does show Washington Chandler 20-30 as head of household with a female 70-80.

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If the 1820 Census is accurate, Dianah would have been born between 1775 and 1794. CFALD has only one Diana who fits this, and she married Thomas Roberts in VA in 1792, so would appear as Diana Roberts if she appeared by name at all in 1820. It looks as Dianah was a widow with a child under 10 but there is no Chandler male who died in Buncombe or anywhere in NC between 1810 and 1820 in our database.

 

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Dennis Allan Chandler (b 11th April 1920 West Ham, Newham, d 12th Dec. 2004 in Bournemouth) was my grandfather. He married my grandmother Edna Norry Barnes in the mid 1940's and divorced in the 50's, which was the last contact with the family. His occupation is listed as retired caterer. There is a family story about his mother being a German Countess who fled from the Nazis to the UK but I have no idea if it's true. I came across your website quite by accident but was very interested to see that there is such interest in the family name. I never met my grandfather as he divorced shortly after my mother was born, I did a bit of digging around recently and have a copy of his death certificate from 2004. I would be interested to find out about other lines of family members in the UK, Are you able to help with that sort of thing or point me in the right direction?

      

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The parents of Dennis Allen Chandler were Geoffrey Allan Chandler and Pansy Brüning who married in 1915 at West Ham. Pansy was the daughter of Max Henry Brüning, a tailor's cutter born in Hanover, Germany, who was living in Leyton, Essex, in 1901. Pansy's mother was also born in Germany. Pansy was born in Leeds, Yorkshire; most of her siblings were born in the London area. Most of her family worked in tailoring. Geoffrey Allan Chandler was born in Leyton and his birth was registered at West Ham in the 4th quarter of 1893. His father was Horace Joseph Chandler whose birth was registered at Islington in the 1st quarter of 1858. Horace married Emma Elizabeth Hopping at St Mary the Virgin in Leyton on 8 March 1883. He was 25 and she was 21. His father was also named Horace and was also a clerk. In the 1901 Census, Horace Joseph is shown as a dock company clerk born Barnsbury, a district in Islington, London, and Emma's birthplace is shown as Bromley-by-Bow, London. As well as Geoffrey, they also had a son Arthur H Chandler who was 17 in 1901, a Shipping Clerk born at Leyton.
     Horace, the father of Horace Joseph, married Catharine Brockman in 1850 at Dover in Kent. Horace was born in Dover about 1826 and worked in some kind of surveying capacity for the GPO (General Post Office - who at that time provided postal and telephone services in Britain).
       In the 1841 Census, Horace is 15 and a Carpenter's Apprentice living at Charlton, a district of Dover, with his parents Joseph and Jane Chandler (57 and 53) and siblings Joseph (26), William (29), George (20), Samuel (19), Elizabeth (17) and Harriett (13). Joseph born about 1784 seems NOT to have been part of the large family of Dover Chandlers whose lineages we know.

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Georgia heads of Chandler households in the 1830 census of Gwinnet County, GA – please help identify the following:

·         H. Chandler

·         John C. Chandler,

·         William J. Chandler

·         Robt. Chandler

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The approach we take with census schedules like this is to assume that the Household Head is the oldest male recorded. If this is true, the birth years of the people you inquire about are:

-H Chandler 1791-1800

-John C Chandler (there are two, both) 1801-1810

-William J Chandler 1791-1800

-Robt. Chandler 1791-1800

 We searched the CFA Lineages Database (CFALD) for all males born in those time periods, and examined their life events to see if they could be the men in the Gwinnett County census, but we found no matches. We must stress that CFALD does not (yet!) have all the Georgia Chandlers in it. We have no John C Chandlers in CFALD of the necessary age, and no John Chandlers of the necessary age with Georgia connections. There is no suitable William J Chandler. The only suitably aged Robert is Robert Bradenham Chandler, but he was born and died in VA (which does not of itself preclude him from being in GA in 1830, though it reduces the likelihood).

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Myrtle Chandler Timerding (March 1893-Oct 1967 Cincinnati, OH) was my maternal grandmother. Her father, Charles P Chandler, was born in 1853 in Kanawha, WV. He died in November 933 and is buried in Highland Cemetery, Ft. Mitchell, KY. I am "stuck" discovering roots before 1846 when his mother, Charlotte Starke, married Joseph E Chandler in Kanawha in December of 1846. Joseph and his 3 children (Albert, Charles, and Ida) lived in Kanawha and he was a constable. There is a report that Charlotte's father, Robert Starke, died while visiting them in late 1850. The 1860 census has Charlotte and the 3 children living in Covington/Kenton County, KY, near Cincinnati where her son Charles later settled and married his first wife, Kate Cronin. Charlotte remarried by the 1870 census to a James McCord who became Charles Chandler's stepfather. The death certificate for Charles in 1933 states his father was James and not Joseph. My grandmother, Myrtle Chandler Timerding, supplied the information and perhaps did not know about Joseph. There is no death certificate in WV for Joseph Chandler, and I have been unsuccessful with KY or Ohio searches. There are several other mysteries – Charles Chandler is buried with his third wife and alongside several empty graves from the mid-thirties that were bought for Mary Chandler (my grandmother Myrtle's older sister) and a Sarah Chandler-whom I do not recognize through my research.

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Our research basically confirmed that of inquirer. We were able to tell her that Joseph E Chandler who married a Stark is in CFALD as the son of Richard Carter Chandler b1772 VA. CFALD reports were sent and additions to CFALD were invited.

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Jane H Taylor married Drury J Shell. All the data I have been able to find says that Jane Taylor was the daughter of Rhitta Chandler but I only have the 1850 Census to go on and that does not state her maiden name. I have John Chandler’s pension records that clearly state Rhitta as his daughter and married to James Taylor but the gap in between is just frustrating.

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A CFALD report was provided on the ancestry of James E Shell, son of Drury Shell and Elizabeth Jane Taylor (as she is listed in CFALD). Excerpts and footnotes were provided from a newsletter article on the descendants of John and Ritta Taylor. Lineage: John Chandler b 1600 ENG > Robert Chandler b abt 1629 VA > Robert Chandler b1654 VA > Joseph Chandler b1695 > Joel Chandler b 1726 VA > John Chandler b 1755 VA > Ritta Chandler b 1790 SC > Elizabeth Jane Taylorb 1815 SC > James E. Shell b 1844 GA > Eugenia H Shell > Lonnie Hoyt Jackson > Lonnie Hoyt Jackson

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My grandfather George was a Chandler and to my lasting regret, I never asked him about his roots while he was alive. He and his brothers, Richard and John, were brought up in South London in the 1920's. George was an eminent electrical engineer and worked for the Royal Navy during WWII. John died in a motorbike accident in about 1950 after having served uninjured throughout WWII. I'm still trying to find his resting place. Richard volunteered as a soldier with the Royal Corps of Signals and was among the men that landed in Normandy in June 1944. He died in combat on the tenth of July that year aged 21. He is buried in the St Manvieu War Cemetery, Cheux, Nr Caen France. He has only been visited twice since he died, both times by me.

Response from inquirer: I'm astounded at the information you were able to share. It is indeed my grandfather and his middle name was Bertram. He married Constance Worley c 1940(?), and my mother Stella is the last living Chandler from this branch. My brother and I were completely unaware of Alice. My brother, who lives in West London will pursue John's resting place. I knew about 1/10 of the information you sent.

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Panel believes the following to be true:

- your grandfather was the George B (possibly Bertram) Chandler whose birth was registered at Holborn in the 3rd quarter of 1917.

- he had a sister Alice E whose birth was registered there in Q4 1919.

- his brother John was the William John whose birth was registered there in Q4 1920.

- his brother Richard's birth was registered there in Q1 1923.

- their parents were Bertram G Chandler and Lily M Delaney whose marriage was registered at Southwark in Q1 1916. He may be the Bertram George Chandler whose birth was registered at Mile End in Q1 1884.

- John's death was probably the William John Chandler aged 26 registered at Brentford in Q2 1947 (Volume 5e Page 152). With that information you could obtain a copy of the death certificate, which costs about 9 pounds. That, together with examination of local newspapers, could help you find your grand-uncle's resting place.

 

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Josiah, born 1837 TN (son of William Chandler b 1801), disappears after the 1880 census, when his family was in Robertson County, TN. CFALD has his death date and place as Bushton, Rice Co, KS in 1889 but inquirer would like to be sure this is the correct Josiah.

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We suggested inquirer contact the Rootsweb site for Rice County, Kansas, to see if she could learn anything. We also sent information from census and other records, but so far nothing found indicates specifically that inquirer’s Josiah was in Rice County, Kansas, at the time of his death.

Lineage: John Chandler b 1600 ENG > Robert Chandler b c 1629 VA > Robert Chandler b 1654 VA > Joseph Chandler b 1695 VA > Joel Chandler b 1726 VA > Shadrack Chandler b 1757 VA > James Chandler b 1775 VA > William Chandler b 1801 TN > Josiah Chandler b 1837 TN > Margaret "Maggie" Chandler b 1876 TN > Ruth Anne May Riner b 1903 OK

298

Inquirer and friend both have Chandler ancestors and wondering about the connection. Friend’s family is Ernie P Chandler 1906-1952/ Ernie Oakley Chandler 1885-1952/ William Chandler and Sara Chandler (first dentist in Punxsutawney Pa./Thomas Chandler 1807-1896. It looks like Thomas was also a dentist along with sons. Inquirer’s family starts in Sommerset NJ with George 1813-1851 and Mary Pennington (granddaughter of Jonathan Pennington and Osee Doty and Joseph Moore and Rachel Tucker) > Forrester Chandler and Addie Gale >  Frank Chandler who moved to NY, married a Letia Fitch, and had two children: Kermit Chandler 1906-1982 and Cecil Chandler.  The mother remarried a Roberts.

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You and your friend are not genetically related, because his grandfather became a Chandler by adoption. He is shown as Ernie O Campbell aged 18 in the 1900 Census of Big Run, Jefferson County, PA, in the home of William J Chandler aged 69 and his second wife Sarah C aged 42. Ernie O was specifically recorded as Sarah's son, presumably by a previous marriage, so it is likely that your friend will be carrying a Campbell Y-chromosome in his DNA, rather than Chandler. Of course, this genetic situation does not change at all the fact that your friend IS a Chandler - Ernie O adopted the Chandler surname and raised his children with that name. From a DNA viewpoint, by doing so he inaugurated a new genetic Chandler family.
      William J was William Johnston Chandler born 10 September 1830, whose first wife was Martha Winslow who he married on 7 October 1851. His father Thomas Johnston Chandler (known as "T. J.") was born Bradford County PA on 17 August 1807, married Eliza Sherman on 28 August 1829 and died 9 March 1896. As you said, he studied dentistry and followed that profession for 50 years. His father was named Jeremiah and I believe that he was a descendant of George and Jane Chandler who migrated from Wiltshire, England to Pennsylvania in 1687. That line is known as genetic Chandler family 7B.

     Moving on to your line, George's father was named Jacob and George was born in Bridgewater. Examining the 1830 Census I can see that widow Margaret Chandler living in Bridgewater had a son in the 10-14 years age group, which would fit an 1816 birth for George (per his age in the 1850 census). Margaret is in the 50-59 age group, so Jacob would have been about the same age. There is a suitable family in the 1810 Census of Camillus, Onondaga Co, NY, headed by Jacob, next door to another Chandler family headed by Absalom - possibly brothers to judge by their age ranges. The New FamilySearch system has Abram Chandler who married Sarah in 1775 in Goshen, Orange Co, NY as the father of Absalom, so he may have been the father of Jacob, too. Some online trees place Abram and Sarah Chandler as the parents of Jacob 1765-1820, Isaac 1770-1820, Benoni born 1773 and Absalom 1776-1856. It would be very exciting to get a DNA test done by a descendant of this line.

299

Elizabeth Chandler married Greenberry Wardrupe in Buncombe Co, NC. Greenberry is a brother to my great-grandfather, Ezekiel Wardrupe. They fought in the Civil War with the 64th NC, were captured at Cumberland Gap, TN, and sent to Camp Douglas, IL. After Elizabeth died, Greenberry married Annie Wright. They came to Laurel Co, KY, from Madision Co, NC. Greenberry was murdered in Laurel Co, KY. Elizabeth might have been a sister to Green Chandler.

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After studying 1850 and 1860 census records, we have come to the conclusion that Elizabeth Chandler Wardrupe was the daughter of Joseph Franklin Chandler b 1812 in TN who married Susannah Ramsey in 1830 in NC. Susannah was born 1808 NC. The ancestry we have for Joseph Franklin only goes back to Elisha Chandler b 1732. Lineage: Elisha Chandler b 1732 > Joseph Chandler b 1755 > Simeon Chandler b 1782 > Joseph Franklin Chandler b 1812.

300

Elmer Chandler, possibly born 1912, was my grandfather.  He is In the Bronx NY census of 1940, which says he was from Connecticut.

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Elmer Chandler in CT was a descendant of William and Annis Chandler who migrated from Hertfordshire, England and settled in Roxbury Massachusetts in 1687. However, there is something of a hiccup in the 1820s. We have traced your Chandler ancestry back through the censuses until they connect up with the early, well-documented members of the William & Annis family. From the 1920 Census we see that the parents of your grandfather Elmer born CT 1912 were recorded as Olcott E and Augusta. (The name Augusta may be a census-taker's error.) Olcott E was a sailor aboard the USS Georgia in 1910 when he gave his birth year as 1885 in Massachusetts, whereas in the 1920 census he says he was born in 1892 in CT. The father of Olcott E Chandler was Olcott Mason Chandler born 25 April 1853 , who had a younger brother George and was married to a girl named Ella. Olcott Mason and George were the sons of Olcott Chandler born June 1829 who resided in Enfield CT and married Mary Jane Morgan of County Derry, Ireland. Here is where the hiccup occurred. The records state that Olcott was the son of Jerusha Terry of Enfield, but not the son of Isaac Chandler 1783-1831 who had married Jerusha and had four daughters with her commencing in 1818. Isaac died on 4 August 1831 aged 48 - two years after Olcott was born, when Jerusha was probably in her early forties. Isaac' father (Lt) David Chandler 1747-1816 married Miriam Simonds. David was a farmer on land owned by his grandfather Henry in the north of Enfield. He was highway surveyor in 1773. In 1779 he was one of the committee of the town to purchase clothing for soldiers and to look after their families while the husbands and fathers were absent. In the 1780s he was a member of the school committee and a juryman. In 1804 he was inspector of tobacco. He died in Enfield in 1816 aged 69.

     David's father was Isaac 1717-1787 who married Abigail Hale. Isaac's father was Henry 1667-1737 who married Lydia Abbot. In 1695 the town of Enfield granted Henry and his brother Joseph the right to establish a saw mill on the Cochickewick River. He inherited half of his father's homestead in 1703 and in 1723 bought 1700 acres on the banks of the Connecticut River lived for the rest of his life. Henry and Lydia had 13 children and 99 known grandchildren.

      Henry's father was (Captain) Thomas 1628-1703 who married Hannah Brewer. He came to Massachusetts with his parents at age about 7. He was one of the proprietors and early pioneers in the settlement of Andover. The Andover historian wrote "T.C. was a blacksmith, ultimately a rich man, carrying on a considerable iron works."

      Henry's father was William Chandler who married second wife Annis Bayford (not Alcock as many have incorrectly recorded) and settled in Roxbury in 1637, bringing four children with them from England.

      Of course, the "hiccup" I refer to above does not change the fact that you are a Chandler. Olcott is an unusual given name. It might indicate the surname of his father. Indeed, the 1820 Census shows that there were no less than 19 households in Hartford County, CT, headed by a man surnamed Olcott, implying that there were probably around 50 Olcott men in the county who could have fathered Jerusha's son. A Y-chromosome DNA test might confirm or refute this as a possible male ancestral surname. It might even prove the records wrong and show a Chandler profile. 

301

Frances (Fanny) Chandler was born about 1800 and died before 1850. She married Baptist Park (1788/1800-Mar 1853) on 27 Feb 1821 in Jackson Co. GA. His parents were Wilson Park (1775-1812) and Hannah Milligan. They were married in 1799. Wilson came from NC and died in Jackson Co. GA. Baptist and Fanny had at least one daughter, Frances Virginia Park born 3 Oct 1826 in Jackson Co. and died 29 Oct 1903 in Red River Co., TX. She married Doc Singleton Kerbo about 1852. He was born in Jul 1823 and died at Gettysburg on 3 Jul 1863. After his death, she came to Texas with two bothers-in-law. My father was their great grandson.

 

Response from inquirer: Inquirer responded: Thank you so much for finding (or not finding) a possible trail to my ancestor Fanny Chandler Park(s). I had not been able to connect her to Parks and one of his wives, Massa or Elizabeth "Betsy." Frances (Fanny) and Baptist Park were married 27 Feb 1821 in Jackson Co. (or my research showed from the Park side of the family), but I was never able to document this marriage in Jackson County. Baptist and his parents Wilson and Hannah Mulligan came from NC, but when I do not know. If only I can find Fanny's parents for sure. Then I could possibly hook her to the John Chandler line.”

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This is a tough nut to crack. The birth date of Fanny's daughter, 3 October 1826, is a key piece of information as it determines the earliest possible death date of Fanny. The 1850 and 1860 censuses have her aged 20 and 30, suggesting an 1830 birth, and the 1900 census has her born October 1828. We assume you have something which evidences 3 October 1826. The 1850 Census suggests that Martha M Park born 1828 who married James Wright was also a daughter of Baptist and Fanny.

      We were hoping that the book "Cemetery Records of Jackson County, Georgia" might provide some clues, but we did not find Fanny there. We also looked for clues to see if Frances might have been a hitherto-unknown daughter of Parks and Massa Chandler or his second wife Elizabeth "Betsy" Barker. Parks died in Jackson County. More disappointment! This does, however, remain a possibility. We feel that the most likely parentage of Fanny is as the first child of Parks and Betsy Barker Chandler or the last child of Parks and his first wife named Massa. Have you considered this possibility previously? The ancestry of Parks involves descent from John Chandler born in England in 1600 who migrated to VA in 1610. That line goes John > Robert > Robert > Joell > Robert > Parks.” We have added Fanny to Parks' family in the CFA Lineages Database (CFALD), with a question mark about her entry, and explanatory notes in the record.  

302

Ephraim Chandler was baptised 16th October 1822 at Lympsham, Somerset, the son of Patience Chandler, single woman. He is quite a tragic Chandler link within my family tree and I would welcome any further information you have. At the age of about 9 he was apprenticed by the Worle overseers to a farmer, and later to a tiler and plasterer. At 21 he ended his apprenticeship and went to work for the same tiler & plasterer in the town of Weston Super Mare. In 1844 he married Emma Binding in Weston Super Mare. In April 1846, in poor health, he was the subject of an order of removal, whereby the overseers of Worle parish (where Emma had relations) tried to remove him, his wife and infant son Henry, back to Weston Super Mare, but this may have been unsuccessful as he died at Worle in September 1846, aged 24. His widow had just given birth to another child, Jane. I can trace Emma's life subsequently, and I know that the infant Jane died in Weston Super Mare in 1847. Henry Chandler, born 29 October 1844, can be found on the 1861 census (Weston Super Mare, a labourer still living with his mother and stepfather), but despite several years of searching I have not found any further trace of him. I believe his mother may have been born Patience Vater, who married John Chandler in 1817 in Hutton, Somerset. A child Betsey Chandler was baptised at Hutton on 21st April 1817, but I can find no further trace of John or Betsey thereafter. A Patience Chandler was tried for larceny and acquitted at Somerset Assizes in January 1824.

 

Inquirer responded: I now have the death certificate for Patience Chandler. She died 2nd April 1848 at Churchill, Somerset. She was 59 years old and the wife of James Chandler, labourer. The death was notified by Ann Lewis. I can't find Patience or James in the 1841 census, nor James in the 1851 census. So this may have been "my" Patience suggesting that she had a husband somewhere else?”

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We think we have located your Patience Chandler. According to the National Burial Index, a Patience Chandler aged 59 was buried in April 1848 at St John the Baptist in Churchill. This is confirmed by a death registration at Axbridge in Q2 1848. This Patience would have been born about 1789 and, if she was Patience Vater, she would have been 28 on marriage in 1817. This might give an indication of the birth date of John Chandler - perhaps 1787. If John and Patience Chandler were the parents of Ephraim, why was Patience shown as a single woman at Ephraim's baptism? Even if her husband John had died by then, she should have been shown as a widow. Research notes:

 1. The National Burial Index has a William Chandler aged 23 buried 17 September 1846 at Worle St Martin. There was no death of a William Chandler registered at Axbridge in Q3 or Q4 1846. "William" may be an NBI mis­transcription for "Ephraim".

 2. In case they may later prove to be relevant, we noted two burials at Lympsham St Christopher:

 a. George Chandler aged 2 buried 5 October 1844.

 b John Chanler (sic) aged 2 months buried 7 February 1841.

 3. There is no Ephraim Chandler in the Worle or Weston area in the 1841 Census.

 We have searched thoroughly in my Somerset and Gloucestershire records, as well as emigration and military files, but cannot locate suitable entries for your John, Henry or Betsey.

 

Inquirer sent a copy of the death certificate for Patience Chandler. Research is continuing.

303

Captain Joshua L. Chandler, buried at the end of main street in Chincoteague, VA, is as far as I can go back. I have heard the name James mentioned as his father but I'm not sure if that is right. This is quite a large group of Chandlers, and I'm wondering why we don't hear from more of them. My dad, Asa Neal Chandler, died September, 1938, so I didn't learn much about his family. His dad was William. He had a brother Ebe in DE and Joshua L. was their father William & wife Sara Benson Chandler had 7 children. My father’s family was from Chincoteague, VA, and before that Dagsboro, DE.  Lineage from inquirer: Captain Joshua L. Chandler b 10/1829, Roxanna, Sussex County, DE, USA, > William James (Billy) Chandler, b 1852, PA, USA.> Asa Neal Chandler, b 1882, Chincoteague, VA, USA

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Information was provided about a book on this family, which inquirer did purchase. Inquirer's brother has tested into Genetic Family #22, descendants of John Chandler of Accomack County, VA, born 1650, probably in England and probably the founder of the Eastern Shore Chandlers on the DelMarVa peninsula. Inquirer is delighted with this result, not least because it bears out her research of many years.

304

Henry John Rogers (born 1872 Avebury) was my grandfather. His parents were Henry John Rogers (born 1850 Marlborough, Wiltshire) and Sabrina Chandler (born 1847 in Avebury, Wiltshire). Sabina's father was Joseph Chandler (born circa 1810 in Avebury). His Mother was Sarah Chandler. Sadly that is all the information I have, they are proving very stubborn and difficult to find.

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The wife of Henry John Rogers was born and married with the name Sabina, omitting the "r". Her birth was registered at Marlborough in the 3rd quarter of 1847, and her christening at Avebury on 15 August 1847. Her marriage as Sabina was registered at Marlborough in the first quarter of 1871. According to the 1851 Census, her parents Joseph and Mary were both born in Beckhampton, on the outskirts of Avebury, in 1811 and 1813 respectively. From the ages of the children in 1841 and 1851, they were married about 1838/9. Assuming that Joseph and Mary married and that their marriage was properly registered, they were probably the Joseph Chandler and Mary Pearce whose marriage was registered at Malmesbury in the first quarter of 1838. That suggests Mary was not in fact born at Beckhampton, probably one of many census errors. None of the three children of Joseph and Mary recorded in the 1841 Census are with them in 1851. The deaths of Ellen, Rachel or William are not registered at Marlborough in the intervening 10 years. Ellen is aged 12 in the 1851 Census, living in Beckhampton with her pauper aunt, Sarah Gregory, a widow aged 67. Also in the household is another sibling of Sabina, Eli aged 7. The sibling living with Sabina (aged 3) and her parents in 1851 were Rebecca (10), George (9), Henry (8), Stephen (6), James (2) and infant Dinah.

     We don't know which Sarah Chandler was the (almost certainly unmarried) mother of Joseph. There are a number of possibles. It might be Sarah King Chandler christened at Swindon on 23 May 1787. The name King may be a clue to the name of Joseph's father. Her mother appears to be Ann, who also seems to be an unmarried mother. Perhaps Sarah Chandler married sometime after giving birth to Joseph in 1810 and became Sarah Gregory, widowed by 1851 and known to Joseph's children as Aunt Sarah though in fact their grandmother?

304

Ada Chandler from Dronfield I Derbyshire b 1877 was my great grandmother. She was the daughter of George Chandler b Huncote Leics 1853.

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Inquirer is part of Genetic Chandler Family Group 8. Panel: Our records show that your g-g-grandfather George was born on 1st May 1853 at Narborough, which is just down the road from Huncote, where his younger siblings were born. He married Mary Evans aged 20, daughter of John Evans, at Dronfield on 2 April 1877 when he was almost 24. Your great grandmother Ada, born at Dronfield in the 4th quarter of 1878, had a brother John William Chandler born in 1880. George was the son of John Chandler and Ann Armston. John was born at Huncote on 21 November 1819 and married Ann on 5 July 1846 at Huncote. John died in Leicester on 16 December 1899. John was the son of William Chandler and Mary Harris-Shaw. William was born Narborough in May 1799. William and Mary married in April 1819 at Thurlaston. They died in 1876 and 1877 respectively. William was the son of Richard Chandler and Mary Bamford. Richard was born on 3 January 1775 at Thurlaston and married Mary on 20 February 1796 at Narborough. He died about 1834 in Narborough. Richard was the son of Edward Chandler and Latitia Strong, and this is the point at which your lineage converges with Tony Chandler's, detailed on our website. Edward born 1743 in Gilmorton is entry number 6 in Tony's lineage.

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John Meyers Chandler 1825-1910 b TN, US died Allen Co, KY > Thomas A Chandler 1849-1874 TN USA died Allen Co KY  > Charles D Tall Chandler (known by family as "CD") 1874-1966 b Allen Co KY, d Union KY > Cossie Dellen Chandler 1906-1992 b KY, d Cincinnati, OH > Elbridge Earl Chandler. The above is known lineage of inquirer’s husband. Possibly some connection with a William Chandler who married an Elizabeth Prather, presumed (by Panel) to be the William b 1805 who married 1st Elizabeth Prather and 2nd Nancy Woods.

 

Follow-up from inquirer: In a couple U.S. census John's son Abraham Link records his father being born in state of TN. Do you have anything on Abraham Link Chandler, dob is 1861-1946? (Later in life he simply reports Link on his Census.) Abraham shows in more than one census that his father is from TN, Mother from NC.  The KY census of 1870 for John M Chandler shows an Elizabeth Chandler listed in the next household, born NC age 71. My husband’s family remained in KY until his family line ended up here in OH.

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We did not find any of your husband’s direct ancestors in the CFA Lineages Database (CFALD) but can provide you with some information on the William Chandler born 1805 who married Elizabeth Prather. Elizabeth was possibly the first wife, as her children were all born between 1828 and 1838, well before the 1850 birth of William, the son of William born 1805 and presumed 2nd wife Nancy Woods. William born 1850 is also credited with a wife named Nancy, which could be true or might prove to be confusion between the two gene­rations of Williams. We do not find a John Meyers Chandler anywhere in this family, although William born 1805 had nephews named John McNeal born 1842 (father was Joseph McNeil born 1801) and John R born 1831 (father was Richard “Capt John” Chandler b 1792). William born 1805 had four sisters but only the two brothers mentioned above. Their parents were Joseph Chandler born 1715 New Kent County, VA, and Sarah ? born 1720.

 

Panel conclusion: The next step is for inquirer to join the DNA Project. We have not encountered anyone of this line previously.

307

Lance Chandler born in New Zealand whose parents were English is my adopted son's natural father.  My son would like me to research his ancestors.

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We know of only one Lance Chandler born in New Zealand, but it was his great grandparents, not his parents, who were born in England. The privacy of living people is carefully protected by New Zealand law. This does not make genealogy impossible, but it does make recent family history much more difficult. As far as I can tell, the Lance Chandler we know of would have been born around 1960, and it appears that he was the son of a Daphne Chandler.

308

I am looking for information on my grandparents. Their names were Harry F. and Clara Chandler, I believe that they lived in Los Angeles, California, or Bakersfield – this is all the information that I have.

 

Inquirer responded: My mother was born either Virginia Lucille Chandler or Lucille Chandler September 7, 1930 in Kern, California. She was adopted by David and Anna Egan in 1937 in Los Angeles, California.

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We know of only one Harry and Clara Chandler in California. In 1940 they had two children, Raymond born 1933 and Doris born 1937. Do either of these children sound like one of your parents?

 

There is a birth record in an index at Ancestry.com showing that Lucille Chandler was born in Kern County, California, on 7 September 1930 and that her mother's maiden name was Turkington. The father's name is not shown in any of these index records at Ancestry. We can find no suitable records at all relating to Clara Turkington or Harry F Chandler in California. There is a record showing Raymond Lee Chandler born 7 June 1932 in Orange County, CA, and another for Doris Marie Chandler born 27 August 1936 in San Bernardino County, CA, both with Turkington as the mother's maiden name. Using that information, we found Harry, Clara, Raymond and Doris in the 1940 Census at Oro Grande in San Bernardino County. Clara, not Harry, is shown as the owner of a poultry farm - Harry is recorded as unable to work. Harry was born in Iowa in 1889 and Clara in Texas in 1894. The 1900 Census shows Harry L Chandler aged 10 in Riverton, Fremont County, Iowa in the home of his parents Walter S and Clara S Chandler (aged 38 and 36 respectively) with another son, Ancil B Chandler aged 14. All were born in Iowa. Walter was a fruit buyer. His father was born in Ohio and his mother in New York. The parents of Clara S were born in VA.
       It may be that Walter S was actually William S, because that is how he appears in the 1870 Census of Madison, Fremont County, Iowa. He was aged 9, born Iowa. His father was Thomas Chandler aged 44, a farmer born Ohio, and his mother was Arabella A., aged 40 born New York. His siblings at that time were Lucy A (19 born Wisconsin), Emily A (15 born Wisconsin) and Laura I (3 born Iowa).
      In the 1850 Census of Grant County, Wisconsin, Thomas Chandler aged 25 was recorded as a carpenter born Ohio, and his wife is Almira A., aged 21 born New York. An adjacent household is headed by Joseph W Chandler aged 29, also a carpenter born in Ohio, who may well be a brother of Thomas.
      There were a large number of Chandler households in Ohio in the early 1800s, but the censuses before 1850 only show the household heads, so we have not been able to locate the earlier members of this family.

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John & Jane (―) Chandler/Chantler of Dunnings Mill, East Grinstead, Sussex, England were neighbors of my Streater/Streeter ancestors at Dunnings Farm. They belonged to the same Baptist congregation. I have attached original wills for two men of East Grinstead named John Chantler. I have considered the possibility that the Chandler/Chantler and Streater/Streeter families were related but I have found no evidence to support this speculation.

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Panel provided information about several Chandler-Streeter marriages between 1609 and 1889 in England and invited collaboration.

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Isaac Collins Chandler, born Bienville Parish, LA 5-8-1872, was my grandfather. His father David Chandler born Webster Parish LA 10 May 1818 but only shows _____ Chandler who moved to Miden, Webster Parish, LA 1800.

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David Chandler is probably a son of Solomon Chandler, ancestry unknown. We were able to put inquirer in touch with another descendant of Solomon Chandler and information was exchanged. Parents of Solomon Chandler are unknown..

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Thomas Chandler, inquirer’s birth father, was the son of Clark Chandler. Thomas died in France during WWII and is buried there. When inquirer was 17 years of age he was convinced to legally change his name to reflect the name of the step-father who had raised him. DNA test results place inquirer in Group 9, descendants of William and Annis Chandler. The question to be researched is whether inquirer is a descendant of William Eaton Chandler (1835-1917), noted Republican and son of Nathan S. Chandler.

 

Response from inquirer: “We are in possession of a biography written by Leon Burr Richardson, William E. Chandler Republican, published by Dodd, Mead & Company in 1940. Attached is a scan from that book which I believe explains “Nathan Chandler” vs. Nathan Chandler. There were two Nathans. One son was legitimate, one child was conceived out of wedlock when Nathan Chandler b Apr 14, 1782, at the age of 18 slept with household help of his father. This child is Nathan S. Chandler, father of William Eaton Chandler. Nathan S. Chandler, b 1800 Concord, NH was reared at the farm of Moody Farnum, went to Boston in 1823 d. 1862 Concord, NH.”

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Correspondence and research between Dick and inquirer indicates that inquirer may be a descendant of William Eaton Chandler.

 

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Joel Chandler Harris – what is his Chandler ancestry

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It is sad that he was embarrassed about his illegitimacy throughout his life. Anyway, Wikipedia and others say that Chandler was the name of his mother's uncle (reference Brasch, Walter (2000). The Cornfield Journalist. Mercer University Press. ISBN 0-86554-696-7.) His Chandler ancestry is quite complicated. Lineage in CFALD (probable):

John Chandler b 1600 ENG > Robert Chandler b c 1629 VA > Robert Chandler b 1654 VA > Joell Chandler b 1683 VA > David Chandler b abt 1728 VA > Tabitha S. Chandler Turman b abt 1770 VA > Ann Mary Turman Harris b 1790 > Mary Ann Harris b 1816 > Joel Chandler Harris b 1845

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Sarah Elizabeth Chandler Banks and Thomas Banks are ancestors. I am looking for documentation of the five previous generations where I still have many holes. Timothy Chandler's will documents his approximate death date, his marriage to "Justine," and the existence of his daughter "Betty Banks" -- I believe that Betty Banks is "Sarah Elizabeth 'Betty' Chandler" (Banks), but I have no documentation. I would like to apply for membership in the Jamestowne Society on the basis of this lineage, so every generation must be proven. I thought Betty Chandler (Banks) died in 1749 and so wouldn't have been mentioned in a 1757/58 will.

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Panel provided CFALD reports for ancestry and descendants of Elizabeth Chandler Banks. Also informed inquirer about problems qualifying for Jamestowne Society based on John Chandler. (There is no traditional paper evidence of John’s relationship to his sons.) Later sent information from Banks Family Association website indicating that Thomas Chandler married two daughters of Timothy Chandler – first Sarah and, after her death, Elizabeth. Lineage: John Chandler b 1600 ENG > Robert Chandler b c 1629 VA > Robert Chandler b 1654 VA > Timothy Chandler b 1685 VA > Elizabeth “Betty” Chandler b 1731 m. Thomas Banks

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Weldon Chandler b 1829 may be my g-g-grandfather. My birth name was Chandler but my name was changed due to adoption. A few weeks ago someone got me to re-subscribe to Ancestry.com. Of course I am using the research of many others, so I know there may be flaws. However, if it is correct then I am all the way back to my 22nd g-grandfather. Lineage:

Weldon Chandler (1829 - 8 Jul 1862) Person, NC > Daniel Weldon Chandler (Sep 1958 - Jun 1923) MS> Thomas Chandler (14 Jan 1987 - 14 Jan 1939) Shelbyville, TX >

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Weldon Chandler born 1829 is in CFALD as a descendant of John Chandler born 1600. Only one child, Joseph Stephen born 1860, is listed for Weldon, but tThat does not mean there were no other children. The information in CFALD fits with the 1860 census record from Fayette, Jefferson County, MS, which shows several children, including a J.S. less than one year old and a D.W. aged 2. A CFALD report and a number of online links were provided. DNA testing was suggested.

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Inquirer wanted to know the correct Chandler Coat of Arms so he can get a tattoo of it.

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Inquirer was told that there is no one Chandler COA and they are generally not inheritable. Found inquirer’s grandfather in CFALD and sent him that ancestry, plus a newsletter that includes an article about his family.

316

Pascal Marshall Chandler was born October 6, 1911, in Opp, AL. He died February 5, 1962, in Lakeland, FL and is buried at Skyway Memorial Garden, Manatee County, FL. He was inquirer’s father. Her mother was Erin L. Hodges, born July 12, 1917, place unknown; died January 18, 2000, buried at Lawnwood Memorial Park, Covington, Newton County, GA. Erin & Pascal divorced, date unknown. Erin remarried to Armando Dinucci. Pascal Marshall Chandler's father was Mackey Chandler, possibly born in or near Opp, AL. Birth and death dates, places are unknown. Mother was Flora Cotton, birth and death dates, places: unknown.

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This family was found on the 1900 and 1920 census. 1900 census has them in Skipperville, AL, and gives Mackey Chandler’s parents as John (a farmer) and Mary Ann, born AL November 1846 and October 1858 respectively. An Ancestry family tree has John Jason Chandler born November 1846 in Barbour Co, AL; died 31 March 1913 in Dale Co, AL. He married Mary Ann Singleton. John Jason is shown as the son of Nelson Chandler 1810-1880 and Permelia Cleghorn 1825-1880, though no earlier ancestry of Nelson is shown. Waiting on response from inquirer.

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William Hutson Chandler b 1820 KY or IL, d 1861 TN, g-g-grandfather, is earliest documented ancestor. He m Mary Elizabeth Blount Aug. 1839, Hardeman Co TN. William Hutson Chandler is shown in family trees on ancestry.com as a son of Uriah Chandler. G-grandfather James Benjamin Chandler (1853-1919) m Sarah Jane Mills

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Have you seen Annamae Barber Chandler's 449 page book "Discovering Chandler Lines 1475-1996 in TN Death Records 1908-1944"? In that book, Annamae writes "James B. and Sarah J. Chandler lived at Whiteville in Hardeman Co., TN, after the Civil War until 1925. A biographical sketch suggests that James was one of ten children, but they were not found, nor was their prior line who came via VA to NC, into Hardin, McNairy and Hardeman Co., TN." Her footnote for that biographical sketch reads "Hardeman Co. TN Historical Sketches (Bolivar TN: HCHist.Com., 1979) p98." Annamae's book does not therefore identify the antecedents of James B or clarify what the B stands for. He is James E in the 1860 AR Census and just James in 1850, and the TN State marriage index only has him as James B (James Ben Chandler in that index is the 1897 marriage to Tillie Sanders.) It seems clear that his father's name was William H and that this was William Hutson who married Mary Elizabeth Blount in August 1839. Annamae has James Hudson Chandler for the boy born 1876 and died 1886. We can't provide any evidence about the parentage of William H. DNA testing was suggested.

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Joseph Chandler was born 14 Jul 1821 in Grainger TN and died 17 Aug 1868 in Lewisville, Blount TN. He was married to Amie Ann Sellers on 27 Nov 1843. They had a daughter named Cynthia Ellen Chandler who married Austin Abraham Fox. Their daughter Bertha O Fox married Joseph Adam Alexander Swatzell who had my grandmother Naomi Elizabeth Swatzell. Do you have anything about Joseph Chandler and who his parents could be?

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The line which includes Joseph Thomas Chandler born Grainger Co, TN, in 1821 has been rather fraught. It was originally included in the descendants of immigrant John Chandler born in England in 1600. However, one descendant had a DNA test matched genetic family #8, not #7A as expected. Joseph Thomas has been thought to be the son of Thomas Chandler b 1796, which may still be true, and the grandson of Daniel born 1765 which is almost certainly not true. CFALD reports and explanations were provided. Inquirer was put in touch with another member of Group 8 in hope of collaboration.

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Adaline Chandler, b 12 Jul 1801, is my 3rd great grandmother. Our family research makes Henry and Abigail (Hutchins) Chandler, Adaline’s parents. The line then goes up to Benjamin and Hannah (Dutton) Chandler, William, Jr. and Susanna (Burge) Chandler, William and Eleanor (Phelps) Chandler, to Thomas and Hannah (Brewer) Chandler. I am dubious of the way a Benjamin Chandler was casually assigned a son somewhere above this linage and am wondering if your DNA has confirmed my above linage.

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Response from Group 9 Consultant: “I have checked out the lineage as far as Benjamin born 1718 in Billerica, and it seems solid to that point. Unfortunately, I didn't pursue his line any further. Since I am particularly involved in the DNA study, you can guess the next bit of news – no descendant of Benjamin has come forward to participate in the project. More precisely, no project participant has claimed descent from Benjamin. (We do have a couple of Group 9 members whose lineages are not known.)

      “From my own experience, I can tell you that I had some qualms about the connection made by the Chandler book between my 3ggf John Chandler, whose adult life was spent in Princeton, MA, and a John Chandler born in Andover (the epicenter of two branches of our Chandlers). When I took the DNA test, I was prepared to be "surprised" with a non-match against known descendants of William and Annis. The fact that I do match is a plus for the book. (DNA can only disprove a lineage, never positively prove one to be true.)”

       “As I mentioned, I have checked as far as Benjamin #155. There is no doubt that William #44 had a son Benjamin born in 1718 in Billerica, before he moved his family to Westford. Benjamin was entered again in the birth records of Westford as just "1718" without the month and day. Also, Benjamin's marriage to Hannah Dutton is found in the Westford VRs (1743), but he clearly moved away soon after, since there is no further mention of Benjamin or Hannah in Westford. The fact that a Benjamin and Hannah showed up in Petershamthe next year (or at least a Benjamin, who eventually had a wife named Hannah who died there in 1777), coupled with the fact that Benjamin's gravestone in Petersham says he was born c1718, strongly suggests that he's the same one born in Billerica. I think the book is erring on the side of caution here.”

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Marshall Henry Chandler b 6/30/1911 Heavener, Oklahoma; d 7/30/1989 Gilroy, CA.

Father: Morris Chandler b 1887 Waldron, Scott, AR; d 1918 Heavener, OK; married Elizabeth "Lizzie” McClain. (It's worth noting that Morris only appears on their marriage certificate and one other for the Dedmon family at age 21, working as a ranch hand. We cannot find him on any family census records at all.)

G-grandfather: Bayless Earl Chandler b 1851 Arkansas; d around 1933; married Matilda Catherine Brasher

G-g-grandfather: Joseph Chandler b 1801 - South Carolina; d unknown (As of the 1860 Census he was living in Mountain, Scott, AR, with no wife and five children: John and Lucinda, both born MS, and Hannah, Bayliss and Sarah, all born AR.)

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Panel discussed census records from Arkansas in 1860, 1870 and 1880 and land records on the Brashers/Brashiers family of Scott County, AR. Panel reported on Confederate pension records; an online e-book, “History of Scott County, Arkansas;” and Brasher burials from Find-A-Grave. Online records show the following were residents of Greenville County, SC, as early as the late 1700s/early 1800s: Baylis Earle, Aquilla Brasher and Hiram Brasher. Several Chandler families were also residents of Greenville County, SC, during this same time. Census records from Greenville, SC, in 1790, 1800, 1820, 1830 and 1840 were reported, with numerous Chandlers and Brashers included. Links were provided to SC government websites with research possibilities for land documents and probate records. None of the above is conclusive proof that inquirer’s Chandlers and Brashers were directly related to those of Greenville, SC. Nor is it conclusive proof that either family was related to the Earles of that place. The existence of some of the same family names (Baylis Earle, Aquilla Brasher, Hiram Brasher) in both places does warrant further research of that possibility.

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Inquirer recently took a DNA test and is confused on how to find and read the results.

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We were expecting your DNA to match the many descendants of John Chandler born England in 1600 whose DNA has been tested. Instead, your DNA matches a small group which we call #34. There are six participants in this group, but two of them are brothers, who one would usually expect to have matching DNA, so they really only count as one. All of them believed themselves to be descendants of 1600 John via Joel Chandler born 1740. Three of them, including you, claim descent from Joel's son John B Chandler born 1775. The other two, from John B's older brother Robert born 1773. We have other descendants of Joel born 1740 who do test match to Group #7A, so it seems that your John B (and his brother Robert) were the sons of someone else, possibly a different Joel. You know that we already have two VA Joels in the first half of the 18th Century - the one mentioned above, born 1740 son of Joell, and the other born 1726 son of Joseph. So perhaps there was a third Joel? Panel and other researchers provided advice, thoughts and alternate theories on the reasons behind the DNA mis-match.  

322

Evelyn Victoria Ann Chandler (also known as Eva Carrington) and her sister Gladys Winifred Chandler. Evelyn married Jack Southwell Russell 25th Baron de Clifford, then Arthur Roy Stack, then later George Vernon Tate. Her sister Gladys was married to Christopher Humprey Tancred.

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We have these two sisters in our records. The birth of Evelyn Chandler Victoria A Chandler was registered at Lambeth in Q2 1887 and her marriage to Lord Jack S R de Clifford was registered at Pancras in Q1 1906. The birth of her sister Gladys Winifred Chandler was registered in Westminster in Q4 1889 and her marriage to Christopher H Tancred was registered at Paddington in Q1 1915. This Chandler family became known as Carrington. Their father, a Messenger and Hall Porter, who later called himself Walter Robert Carrington, was born Walter Robert Chandler in Q4 1853 and registered at St George Hanover Square, and his marriage as a Chandler to Louisa Brown was registered at Westminster in Q2 1885. It is believed that Walter was born in Q4 1853, birth registered at St George Hanover Square, and that he was the son of Lodging House Keeper Robert F Chandler (born Bradenham, Norfolk, about 1823) and his wife Ann born Dunmow Essex (of Dunmow flitch fame) about 1819. Robert was married as Robert Forty (probably Forby) Chandler in Q2 1845 registered at St James' in Westminster to either Ann Norris or Ann Saywell. Widower Robert Forby Chandler married widow Sarah Blake nee Quest at St George Hanover Square on 6 October 1883. As well as son Walter Robert, Robert F and Ann had a daughter named Louisa Ellenor born in Q4 1857 who became a music teacher. The new FamilySearch system has the christening of Robert Forby Chandler, son of Robert and Ellen Chandler, on 16 December 1822 at West Bradenham. We were unable to get to the bottom of why Walter Robert abandoned the surname Chandler and adopted the name Carrington, but surmise that he had a rather "nobby" job and thought that Carrington sounded more aristocratic than Chandler. There is a short bio of Eva Carrington at

http://www.stagebeauty.net/th-frames.html?http&&&www.stagebeauty.net/carrington/carrington-e.html.

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Lewis Thomas Llewellyn, born March 11, 1886, either Maryland or Pennsylvania, was the son of Louis (aka Lewis) Llewellyn and Emma Virginia Chandler. I know Chandler is a family name, as it is all over my baby book's family tree. But my mother—an only child, who was 16 when her father died—does not have much information about her relatives. When she was growing up she lived with an aunt, Mary Llewellyn. The site my sister found--Rowley and Langrell Family Charts--does not list Mary as a child of Louis and Emma, but it does list Chandler (born October 1875) and Lewis (March 1886) as children.

 

Additional information from inquirer: My mother’s parents were Lewis Thomas Llewellyn and Emily Buehler Llewellyn. (I know my grandfather was married before he married my grandmother, but all I know about his first wife is that her first name was Bertha and that she died, perhaps in childbirth. I don't even know if the child survived.) Lewis's parents were Reverend Lewis Llewellyn and Emma Chandler Llewellyn. Emma's parents were Reverend Hartwell Chandler and Martha Hendren Chandler. Downing Hendren (my mother records him as my great-great-great-great grandfather) was a soldier in the Revolutionary Army. His son, Jeremiah, was a major in the Confederate Army. Hartwell Chandler preached for two years in Norfolk during the Civil War (Baptist). I think Aunt Mary that lived with my mother and her parents was my grandfather's sister, or Mary Llewellyn. It might have been Mary Chandler, but if she was born in 1840 she would have been pretty old by the time my mother was a child.

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Llewellyn - with two sets of double Ls - is Welsh in origin. The first Ll--- is pronounced like Thl so the Welsh say it as Thlewellyn. Because of their ages, it is vital to find Anne's grandparents in the 1900 US Census. This proved difficult. I finally found them recorded, with scrawled handwriting, as Luellen living in Winfield, Butler Co, PA. Louis was born in April 1845 in England, of English parents. His occupation appears to be "Reverant", so presumably a minister. 1869 was his year of immigration, and he is recorded as having been in the US 40 years. That could mean that he was in the US for 10 years before he was naturalized, or that the census enumerator's arithmetic was as bad as his spelling and handwriting. Emma was born in MD in May 1842 of Virginian parents, and she and Louis had been married for 27 years, having 6 children of whom 3 were alive in 1900. The three children were Chandler "Luellen" aged 24, Mary 20 and Louis 14, all born in Maryland. Also present was Mary Chandler, the aunt to whom Anne referred, sister-in-law of Louis, aged 60 so born 1840 in VA of Virginian parents. Aunt Mary was apparently divorced. The closest match to Louis born England in April 1845 is Lewis Llewellyn whose birth was registered at Merthyr Tydfil (which is in Wales, not England) in the first quarter of 1846. With regard to Louis' wife Emma, there are 3 possible Emma Chandlers born in Maryland around 1842, but the only one with Virginian parents was the daughter of Rev H J Chandler, a Baptist clergyman born VA in 1816 and his wife Martha A G Chandler born VA in 1822.

 

Conclusion: Aunt Mary in the 1900 Census living with the "Luellen" family in Winfield, Butler Co, PA was definitely surnamed Chandler. Bertha, who your grandfather married first, was Bertha Margaret Price (another Welsh name) born 19 February 1890 in Herdland, Clay Co, IA. Per the 1920 Census of Polk County, IA their children were Floyd born 1917 and Marvin born 1918, both in IA. Bertha's parents were James (sometimes shown as John H) Price, a farmer born 1855 in Wales, and Annie formerly Evans (yet another Welsh name) born 1858 in Wales. Bertha's siblings were Osker (Oscar?) born 1878, Nellie (1882), David (1883), Marnie? (1886) and Winnie (1888). Per the 1940 Census of Saginaw, Saginaw Co, Michigan, your mother was born in Michigan. Your grandfather Lewis Thomas Llewellyn was born in Pennsylvania in 1886 and naturalized in November 1892, and your grandmother Emily was born in PA in 1892. The H J Chandler found in the 1850 Census seems to be Hartwell Jefferson Chandler, about whom there was a CFA query by Mary Llewellyn in 2008. This Mary Llewellyn (of CT) also posted an inquiry about HJC on the Chandler message board at Ancestry. A response she received indicated that Joel was Hartwell's brother. We have Frederick and Isabel (Seamster), referenced in the 2008 query, in the CFA Lineages Database (CFALD). Their children include Hartwell and Joel. I have some database corrections to make in the case of this family. However, it does appear that Hartwell's family descends from John Chandler born in England in 1600 who migrated to VA in 1610, genetic family 7A. Mary Llewellyn also appears to be the owner of the Llewellyn and Chapman family tree at Ancestry.com which contains a comprehensive entry about Hartwell and his career. We recommend that you get in touch with Mary Llewellyn. We have two other members who may have information about the Chandlers in this family. We found some information about Rev. H.J. Chandler of Bedford Street Baptist Church in Cumberland, MD, in a book at Ancestry.com: Scharf, Thomas J., "History of Western Maryland, Vol. II." In the section on Allegany County, MD, Religious Denominations, Baptist Church, pp. 1416-1417 it says that he was a missionary (doesn't say where from) who arrived in the city of Cumberland in 1871 and revived the ailing church which had all but disbanded. He was also a co-organizer of the Ebenezer Baptist Church in Cumberland in 1875 but never served as a pastor there. He was pastor of Bedford Street from 1871 until 1880 when he was succeeded by the Rev. E. B. Watts.

324

Catherine Chandler born 1808 was the daughter of Richard b c 1772 and Mary Bamford b 1797 of Huncote, Leicestershire, England.

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We have Richard Chandler (born 3 January 1775 at Thurlaston, died about 1834 at Narborough) who married Mary Bamford at Narborough on 20 February 1797, as the son of Edward Chandler and Latitia Strong. These are members of genetic Chandler family #8. This family has been traced back to 1590 in Leicestershire and has a thriving branch in America. We have the same children for Richard and Mary as you do, including your g-g-g-grandmother Catherine, though we didn't know there was a second daughter Mary.

325

Ann Chandler, born 11 Jun 1803 in London, England, married Charles Berjew Fooks on 12 Oct 1828. They emigrated to New Zealand, arriving on 7 Feb 1852 on the William Hyde. She was buried in Timaru Cemetery, New Zealand, on 3 Oct 1879. One of her children, Louisa Ann Fooks, had a child called Susan Lempriere Moore who married Arthur John Fisher. I understand that Ann's parents were an Edward and Ann Chandler, and she had 3 siblings:

·         Sophia Chandler (born 1805, died in 1877 in Christchurch New Zealand)

·         Louisa Chandler (born 1809, died in 1901 in Christchurch New Zealand)

·         Elizabeth Mary Chandler (born 28 Jul 1814 in London England, died 1848) She had married Joseph Brittan, who subsequently married Sophia at Gretna Green in 1851 after Elizabeth Mary's death.

 

Inquirer responded: “The majority of information I got was from the Fooks side of the family, mainly through a number of online NZ sites such as electoral rolls, Online BDM records, from early NZ newspapers, and cemetery records. Whilst I don't have definitive proof that Ann was a sister of Sophie, they did come out on the same ship to New Zealand . . . .”

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Gretna Green is famous in English history as the place just over the Scottish border where couples would elope to marry under Scottish law, which was more easy-going than the established Church of England. The reason for elopement in this case turned out to be that the marriage would have been proscribed by the Church of England at that time, because Sophia was the sister of her would-be husband's deceased wife, and that was not allowed in England between 1560 and 1907.  How sure are you that your Ann Chandler was from the same family as the Chandler ladies who married Joseph Brittan?

 

326

Susannah Chandler, b 25 APR 1768 in Granville, NC, was the daughter of Joseph Chandler, b 1739 in Goochland, VA.

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Inquirer’s information about his Susannah did not match CFALD. Several CFALD reports were provided. His Susannah is possibly Susannah born 1769 in Pittsylvania Co., VA, daughter of Timothy Chandler b abt 1728 Henrico Co., VA, and Mehitable Jane Terrell b 1740.

327

Theodric Arden Chandler, Jr. born 27 June 1926, Johnston County, NC, was the son of Theodric Arden Chandler, born 1903 NC.

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This family belongs to Genetic Chandler Family Group 7A. Lineage: John Chandler b 1600 ENG > Robert Chandler b abt 1629 VA > Robert Chandler b abt 1654 VA > Joell Chandler b 1683 VA > Joel Chandler b 1740 VA > Matthew Chandler b 1782 > John Young Chandler b 1811 > Theoderick “Dock” Chandler b 1849 > Walter Chandler b 1871

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Nancy S. Chandler, born 01 July 1829 in Jamestown, Chautauqua, NY, was the daughter of Woodley Williamson Chandler, born 14 Feb 1800 near Petersburg, Amelia County, VA. (Inquirer later sent more information which included Martin Chandler b 1754 who married Sarah Old.)

 

Inquirer responded: “I finally tracked down the CORRECT Nancy Fairbank who married Robert Edward Hanifin. It is NOT Emily Nancy Fairbank, daughter of Woodley Williamson Chandler. She was the daughter of Harvey Nathan Fairbank. So there is NOT a Chandler link . . . .” 

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We found Martin Chandler and Sarah Old in the CFA Lineages Database (CFALD). CFALD reports were sent which connect inquirer to Chandler DNA Project Group 4. A link to the Group 4 story on the website was also provided.

 

Additional research by inquirer revealed no Chandler connection after all.

 

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Thomas Chandler born about 1796 in Herne, England – who were his parents?

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We have Thomas Chandler christened at Herne, Kent on 11 October 1795, son of Richard and Sarah Chandler. We also have a John Chandler christening on 8 April 1798 at Chislet, near Herne Common, with the same parents. Unfortunately we don't know any more about Richard and Sarah, but at least you now know the names of Thomas' parents and the date of his christening. The birthplace of his wife Frances was Doddington. The "unknown spouse" of Stephen Pilcher in Q4 1853 was the lady you mentioned, Margaret Parish. The marriage of Herbert Pilcher Chandler to Bessie Willis was registered at Basingstoke in the 2nd quarter of 1893. The birth of Frederick (note spelling) William Chandler was registered at Headington in the 3rd quarter of 1899. The lady Alfred Chandler married at Iffley on 8 September 1932 was Violet Josephine May Clarke. Re James William Lowe, the town in County Durham is spelt Bishop Auckland.   . . . although I have searched the records of the area thoroughly, I cannot trace the marriage of Richard and Sarah about 1790, nor can I see a suitable Richard christening in the area.

330

Anne Chandler married John Cork(e) in West Bradenham, Norfolk, England, on 3/10/1704. Do you have any details of this ancestor?

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The best bet for the Anne Chandler who married John Cork(e) in West Bradenham, Norfolk on 3 October 1704 is the Anne Chaundler, daughter of Francis Chaundler, christened about 12 miles away in Oxborough, Norfolk on 4 December 1690. By current standards, Anne would have been young to marry in 1704. However, the minimum age for marriage at that time was 14 for males and 12 for females. Marriages at younger ages than that were not uncommon.

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John Chandler (1819-1881) married Hannah Tack 11 Oct 1842 Papworth St. Agnes, Cambridgeshire, England. On that record he gave his father's name as John Chandler. Cousins tell me that his father is really William Chandler who married Ann Dickenson 12 Oct 1808 in Godmanchester, Hunts, England.

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There was a similar enquiry in 1992, in which the enqirer believed that her ancestor Elizabeth Chandler born 1808/9 was the daughter of William and Ann christened at Godmanchester on 25 December 1809. However, at her marriage in 1855, Elizabeth stated her father as John Chandler. Record availability has improved in the last 20 years, but still not sufficient to provide a definitive answer. Inquirer was urged to not be discouraged since she has hard evidence of her claim, apparently contributed by the man in question (although we must recognize that mistakes can be made).

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Elvira Venancia Chandler was born in Entre Rios, Argentine, on April 1st 1903. Her brother Manuel Chandler was one year younger. Manuel died more than 35 years ago, and Elvira died in 1997. Their mother's name was Ana Diaz. The story Elvira Venancia Chandler (my grandmother) told all her descendants was that her mother Ana Diaz met a ship captain who was American (US born) named Chandler. He visited her in Entre Rios city at her home every time he went to the Argentine and they had the two children. When the kids were 2 and 1 years old, he said he would go back soon from United States to marry her and take her and the kids to his country. He never contacted her again.

 

Inquirer responded: “Unfortunately, there is no much more information. The only thing I can add is that my grandmother and her brother were born in Concepcion del Uruguay in Entre Rios province, Argentine.”

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Panel wrote asking for any additional information.

 

Two follow up messages asking about male Chandler descendants suitable for DNA testing went unanswered.

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I pass this information from England as it may be of assistance to your researchers I believe my ancestors and I belong in your DNA 18 group, I descend through the Chandler line as follows:

·         My Father was Robert Arthur Halsall born 1914 Southport Lancashire England, died 1955

·         His Mother was Dorothy Ethel Chandler born out of wedlock (I think) 1893 Headley Hampshire England, died 1973. She married Robert Halsall born 1887 Southport Lancashire England, who died 1918 France.

·         Her Mother was Edith Chandler born 1875 Headley Hampshire England.

·         Her Father was Benjamin Chandler born 1847 Headley Hampshire England.

·         His Father was Eli Chandler 1804 born 1804 Frensham Surrey England, died 1879.

·         His Father was Benjamin Chandler born 1763 Headley Hampshire England.

·         His Father may have been Henry Chandler born Surrey England 1730-ish.

I would be delighted to forward the full information including side relationships as attachments.

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18

You will have read on our website that we have six Chandler DNA project participants whose test results place them in Group 18.  In fact, we have just had another whose initial results indicate that he will also be part of that group. As you have given permission, we plan to send your information to all the group members.  We would like to take you up on your kind offer of seeing the full information in your family tree.

*”New” in “Mbr” column means the inquirer joined about the same time as the query was submitted to the GP or as a result of the GP’s effort